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Posted by Daniel James on June 29, 2009, 4:59 pm


> My choice will have to be a Garmin then because TomTom charge an
> annual sub for their Live services, seems a bit much for traffic
> updates, ...

Careful ... there are several different ways to receive live traffic
information, one way uses data picked up from FM radio and is free (once
you've paid for the receiver, either included with a satnav unit or
purchased separately) another uses data picked up from a mobile phone --
which will normally cost you, both for the data and for the call, but
gives a much higher quality of information.

TomTom offer traffic data from FM radio (using the signal from Classic
FM, in the UK) which is free on any device that can receive it (the
models with a 'T' suffix, or any model fitted with the optional TMS
receiver), they also offer their own service via your mobile phone for a
few pounds a month (which may seem expensive if you don't use it a lot).

I've just been looking at Garmin's website, and they talk about an "FM
Traffic Subscription" which seems to use the radio signal, but (somehow)
costs £30 for the life of the device. I don't see any mention there of
anything free, but it may just be a badly laid-out website on which the
desired information is hard to find. It may just be that £30 is what
Garmin charge for a TMC receiver, but it doesn't look that way ...

Cheers,
Daniel.






Posted by Pete Zahut on June 28, 2009, 11:58 am


Steve Firth wrote:
>> Steve Firth wrote:
>> Why do you say that 'outside the UK then the Garmin becomes a
>> no-brainer'?
> Why not? Do you have any evidence to counter the point?
>> I've only ever had a TomTom GO700 so can only comment about that but
>> in my posting to the OP at 11.38, I say:
> So out of the one GPS unit that you have tried that one GPS unit is
> the best of all the GPS units that you have tried?
>> *I've had a TomTom GO700 for the last four or five years and it's
>> been brilliant (sat here at home in Preston, Lancashire, and entered
>> the address of our hotel in Gdansk, Poland, and it took us there
>> without any hiccups at all)*
> Yes, of all the satnavs you have tried, the TomTom is the best. I
> think we've established that.
>> The above example was for a one-off specific trip to Gdansk but, for
>> our annual holidays over the last four years it has faithfully
>> navigated us around Belgium, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia and
>> Poland completely effortlessly and without a single misdirection or
>> problems of any sort whatsoever.
> Umm hmm so it was the best of the one unit of this kind that you've
> ever had.
>> I've never had a Garmin (and when this unit dies, because it's been
>> so brilliant I'll probably replace it with another TomTom) but I
>> fail to see just how it could perform any better, or be any better,
>> than a TomTom.
> So you've not owned a Garmin, never intend to buy a Garmin, don't
> intend to ever try a Garmin but you can state without fear of
> contradiction that the only satnav that you have ever used is much
> better.
> I'm glad we settled that.

We have far from settled it Mr. Firth.

I openly state that I have no experience of anything other than TomTom and
so cannot comment on anything else. You, however, state <quote> outside the
UK then the Garmin becomes a no-brainer </quote>

Rather than slag me off for only ever owning a TomTom, I'd say that the onus
is on you to back up your claim.



Posted by Steve Firth on June 28, 2009, 2:05 pm



> We have far from settled it Mr. Firth.

Yes we have, becuase you've already proved in other newsgroups that
you're just a boring troll, and I don't do favours for cowards who hid
behind stupid aliases.

Posted by Pete Zahut on June 28, 2009, 2:31 pm


Steve Firth wrote:
>> We have far from settled it Mr. Firth.
> Yes we have, becuase you've already proved in other newsgroups that
> you're just a boring troll, and I don't do favours for cowards who hid
> behind stupid aliases.

I can assure you Mr. Firth, I want no favours from you. I merely want you to
back up your claim that <quote>

outside the UK then the Garmin becomes a no-brainer.

</quote>



Posted by Steve Firth on June 28, 2009, 5:48 pm



> I can assure you Mr. Firth, I want no favours from you. I merely want you to
> back up your claim

How quaint, well you can want.

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