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Posted by Rod Speed on May 6, 2010, 3:41 am


Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote
>> Klaus Ethgen wrote

>>>>> I newly have a TomTom XL² with European maps. My problem start
>>>>> cause the software TomTomHOME is only available for windows.
>>>>> However, there is wine and the device can be mounted as simple
>>>>> disk so there *shouldn't* be any problem. But this seems to be a
>>>>> misapprehension.

>>>>> It is easy to install the software (only works in winXP mode)
>>>>> but the software is not finding the device at all. I did try many
>>>>> thinks but without success. :-(

>>>> Sorry to hear the device only does what it claims to do and not the
>>>> other things you want it to do.

>>> Well, It do not do all what it claims to do. There is references in
>>> the manual pointing to preferences dialogs which do not exist.

>>>> BTW you don't need Windows, TomTom Home is also available for Mac OSX.

>>> Same problem. And more over, to run TomTomHOME under Mac OSX
>>> I have to buy not only the OS than also a computer it can run on.

>>>> And I believe it will run with Virtualbox running XP, if that's a
possibility for you.

>>> I believe that it work under any virtualisation as there are KVM,
>>> VMWare or Virtualbox. However, that is not helpful at all as I have
>>> no windows OS anywhere so I need to buy one of that overexpensive
>>> peace of software which is not an option.

>> XP isnt expensive to buy on ebay now.

>>>> I believe the problem you are having with Wine may be on account of
>>>> the poor support Wine gives to USB drives.

>>> Oh, that shouldn't be the problem. Even the garmin windows software
>>> work with mounted garmin devices. And Garmin is very delicate with
>>> there linux support.

>>> The software do not need to do any USB checks either as it is not
>>> needed. The device is mounted and all filesystem is available to
>>> wine as separate drive (In my case d:).

>>> I do not think that is is the fault of wine that the software do not run. It
is the fault of tomtom.

>>>> You might go to http://www.winehq.org/ and search for TomTom.
>>>> Also look at
>>>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3628
>>>> and click on 1.x or 2.x.

>>> Don't you think I didn't do that? Actual there is no solution as
>>> tomtom do not give any help or any hint what you have to do to run
>>> the software. There is only some reverse engineering without
>>> success at the moment.

>>> And let me quote some from one page about the problem which says all:

>>>> There were only two things I use that don't work in Linux- iTunes
>>>> and TomTomHome. iTunes works now.
>>>> -- Wolf Butler

>>> Its it a pity that there are companies out there which make good
>>> hardware but just ignoring a mayor part of there customers who
>>> run linux only. And even more if they use linux for the device itself.

> Not only didn't you trim your post, you didn't trim the half BELOW your ONLY
response.

Yes, I choose to retain everything so everyone can see the context for
themselves.

And you didnt trim a thing yourself either.

> Asshole.

Your sig is supposed to have a line with just -- on it in front of it, fuckwit.



Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on May 6, 2010, 6:14 am



> > Not only didn't you trim your post, you didn't trim the half BELOW your
> > ONLY response.
>
> Yes, I choose to retain everything so everyone can see the context for
> themselves.

Including everything AFTER what you replied to.

People don't need the entire thing to get context. Witness above.

Posted by Rod Speed on May 6, 2010, 2:49 pm


Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote
>>>> Klaus Ethgen wrote

>>>>>>> I newly have a TomTom XL² with European maps. My problem start
>>>>>>> cause the software TomTomHOME is only available for windows.
>>>>>>> However, there is wine and the device can be mounted as simple
>>>>>>> disk so there shouldn't be any problem. But this seems to be a
>>>>>>> misapprehension.

>>>>>>> It is easy to install the software (only works in winXP mode)
>>>>>>> but the software is not finding the device at all. I did try many
>>>>>>> thinks but without success.

>>>>>> Sorry to hear the device only does what it claims to do and not the
>>>>>> other things you want it to do.

>>>>> Well, It do not do all what it claims to do. There is references in
>>>>> the manual pointing to preferences dialogs which do not exist.

>>>>>> BTW you don't need Windows, TomTom Home is also available for Mac OSX.

>>>>> Same problem. And more over, to run TomTomHOME under Mac OSX
>>>>> I have to buy not only the OS than also a computer it can run on.

>>>>>> And I believe it will run with Virtualbox running XP, if that's a
possibility for you.

>>>>> I believe that it work under any virtualisation as there are KVM,
>>>>> VMWare or Virtualbox. However, that is not helpful at all as I have
>>>>> no windows OS anywhere so I need to buy one of that overexpensive
>>>>> peace of software which is not an option.

>>>> XP isnt expensive to buy on ebay now.

>>>>>> I believe the problem you are having with Wine may be on account of
>>>>>> the poor support Wine gives to USB drives.

>>>>> Oh, that shouldn't be the problem. Even the garmin windows software
>>>>> work with mounted garmin devices. And Garmin is very delicate with
>>>>> there linux support.

>>>>> The software do not need to do any USB checks either as it is not
>>>>> needed. The device is mounted and all filesystem is available to
>>>>> wine as separate drive (In my case d:).

>>>>> I do not think that is is the fault of wine that the software do not run.
It is the fault of tomtom.

>>>>>> You might go to http://www.winehq.org/ and search for TomTom.
>>>>>> Also look at
>>>>>> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3628
>>>>>> and click on 1.x or 2.x.

>>>>> Don't you think I didn't do that? Actual there is no solution as
>>>>> tomtom do not give any help or any hint what you have to do to run
>>>>> the software. There is only some reverse engineering without
>>>>> success at the moment.

>>>>> And let me quote some from one page about the problem which says all:

>>>>>> There were only two things I use that don't work in Linux- iTunes
>>>>>> and TomTomHome. iTunes works now.
>>>>>> -- Wolf Butler

>>>>> Its it a pity that there are companies out there which make good
>>>>> hardware but just ignoring a mayor part of there customers who
>>>>> run linux only. And even more if they use linux for the device itself.

>>> Not only didn't you trim your post, you didn't trim the half BELOW your ONLY
response.

>> Yes, I choose to retain everything so everyone can see the context for
themselves.

>> And you didnt trim a thing yourself either.

>>> Asshole.

>> Your sig is supposed to have a line with just -- on it in front of it,
fuckwit.

> Including everything AFTER what you replied to.

That was part of the context too. Particularly why real XP is better than Wine.

As everyone can see now that I have restored it to the quoting.

> People don't need the entire thing to get context.

Wrong when you lied about what was after my comment.

> Witness above.

Witness your lie exposed.

Plenty are using news servers that dont keep older posts for very long at
all, and now even groups.google is so bad that you cant even rely on it for
the context when something has been too aggressively snipped and the
reader wants to see the context thats been snipped on why the OP should
be considering real XP to run TomTom Home on instead of Wine.

And even when groups.google does have the older posts, its a hell
of a lot easier to just ignore the context if you dont need it than it is
to go and chase it up using groups.google if you do want to see it,
most obviously with those who are reading this particular post as
the only one they have read in this thread etc.

And basically it doesnt matter a damn what you
like to see, you get to like what I quote or lump it.

You've never ever said a damned thing that matters in any
thread what so ever so even if you killfile everyone you dont
like the way they quote, we wont lose a damned thing at all.


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