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- 03-22-2009
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| Kristoff Bonne | 03-25-2009 |
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Hi all,
As of yesterday, I have a garmin nuvi 255T with -according the
information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egnos.
However, when I look at the information from the satellite signals it
receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
Also, the precision of the signal is always above 10 meters.
So,
- does anybody know if the egnos-system is currently operational over
Europe.
- if this particular receiver does indeed support egnos
- if there is some advanced option I need to enter to enable egnos support?
Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
> Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
The user manual makes no mention of either WAAS or EGNOS.
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=3D010-00717-20&cID=3D1=
37&pID=3D13428
A pair of entries on this forum assert that the Nuvi 255T does not
provide WAAS/EGNOS corrections:
http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=3D214582
http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=3D216184
Jack Yeazel provides a lot of information on WAAS and EGNOS here:
http://gpsinformation.net/exe/waas.html
Here's a list of EGNOS-aided receivers from ESA, and it doesn't list
any of the Nuvi series:
http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/receivers.html
http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/SBAS_receivers.pdf
You will probably do just fine without it.
Hi Pat,
pat_n_ed@yahoo.com schreef:
>> As of yesterday, I have a garmin nuvi 255T with -according the
>> information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egnos.
>> However, when I look at the information from the satellite signals it
>> receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
>> satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
>> information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egnos.
>> However, when I look at the information from the satellite signals it
>> receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
>> satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
> The user manual makes no mention of either WAAS or EGNOS.
>
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=010-00717-20&cID=137&pID=13428
>
> A pair of entries on this forum assert that the Nuvi 255T does not
> provide WAAS/EGNOS corrections:
(...)
> provide WAAS/EGNOS corrections:
Thanks.
So no luck, I guess. :-(
The reference to egnos-support was on a internet shop of GPSs. My guess
is they thought 'OK, it has a sirfstar III which can do egnos, so this
unit will probably support it too".
> You will probably do just fine without it.
I know. GPS-receivers for in cars have a tendency to correct their own
position based on that fact that cars usually drive on roads, so if the
measurements say that the car is driving at 120 km/h in the mud just
next to the road, that's probably due to a measuements-error and the car
is in fact ON that road. :-)
(the same is true for the situation where the GPS says I am located 6
meter below the ground. Grin ... )
But it would be fun just to be able to play around with egnos a little bit.
Just enable it and disable it and see what difference in measurement it
gives.
Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
> Hi Pat,
> pat_n...@yahoo.com schreef:
> pat_n...@yahoo.com schreef:
> >> As of yesterday, I have a garmin nuvi 255T with -according the
> >> information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egn=
os.
> >> information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egn=
> >> However, when I look at the information from the satellite signals it
> >> receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
> >> satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
> >> receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
> >> satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
> > The user manual makes no mention of either WAAS or EGNOS.
> >https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=3D010-00717-20&cID.=
..
> >https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=3D010-00717-20&cID.=
> > A pair of entries on this forum assert that the Nuvi 255T does not
> > provide WAAS/EGNOS corrections:
> > provide WAAS/EGNOS corrections:
> (...)
> Thanks.
> So no luck, I guess. :-(
> The reference to egnos-support was on a internet shop of GPSs. My guess
> is they thought 'OK, it has a sirfstar III which can do egnos, so this
> unit will probably support it too".
> Thanks.
> So no luck, I guess. :-(
> The reference to egnos-support was on a internet shop of GPSs. My guess
> is they thought 'OK, it has a sirfstar III which can do egnos, so this
> unit will probably support it too".
> > You will probably do just fine without it.
> I know. GPS-receivers for in cars have a tendency to correct their own
> position based on that fact that cars usually drive on roads, so if the
> measurements say that the car is driving at 120 km/h in the mud just
> next to the road, that's probably due to a measuements-error and the car
> is in fact ON that road. :-)
> position based on that fact that cars usually drive on roads, so if the
> measurements say that the car is driving at 120 km/h in the mud just
> next to the road, that's probably due to a measuements-error and the car
> is in fact ON that road. :-)
Maybe that the map is wrong, if that happens more than 1 time.
Anyway, if you can place the antenna in a better position or use an
external one the benefit would be much more that using Egnos.
> (the same is true for the situation where the GPS says I am located 6
> meter below the ground. Grin ... )
> meter below the ground. Grin ... )
6 meter of error? A very good precision for altitude estimation!
> But it would be fun just to be able to play around with egnos a little bi=
t.
> Just enable it and disable it and see what difference in measurement it
> gives.
> gives.
Egnos? Basically no difference! (a very small difference, quite
difficult to measure. It' better for WAAS and MSAS as thos satellites
can be used for ranging also, but as far as I know EGNOS can't be used
for ranging)
Claude,
claudegps schreef:
>>> You will probably do just fine without it.
>> I know. GPS-receivers for in cars have a tendency to correct their own
>> position based on that fact that cars usually drive on roads, so if the
>> measurements say that the car is driving at 120 km/h in the mud just
>> next to the road, that's probably due to a measuements-error and the car
>> is in fact ON that road. :-)
>> position based on that fact that cars usually drive on roads, so if the
>> measurements say that the car is driving at 120 km/h in the mud just
>> next to the road, that's probably due to a measuements-error and the car
>> is in fact ON that road. :-)
> Maybe that the map is wrong, if that happens more than 1 time.
> Anyway, if you can place the antenna in a better position or use an
> external one the benefit would be much more that using Egnos.
> Anyway, if you can place the antenna in a better position or use an
> external one the benefit would be much more that using Egnos.
Well, my car-gps is just there to help me get from point A to point B,
so that's good enough.
>> (the same is true for the situation where the GPS says I am located 6
>> meter below the ground. Grin ... )
>> meter below the ground. Grin ... )
> 6 meter of error? A very good precision for altitude estimation!
I never really understood this, why is measuring altitude more difficult
then on the horizontal plane?
Why are two of three of the dimensions more correct then the 3th one?
>> But it would be fun just to be able to play around with egnos a little bit.
>> Just enable it and disable it and see what difference in measurement it
>> gives.
>> Just enable it and disable it and see what difference in measurement it
>> gives.
> Egnos? Basically no difference! (a very small difference, quite
> difficult to measure. It' better for WAAS and MSAS as thos satellites
> can be used for ranging also, but as far as I know EGNOS can't be used
> for ranging)
> difficult to measure. It' better for WAAS and MSAS as thos satellites
> can be used for ranging also, but as far as I know EGNOS can't be used
> for ranging)
What exactly do you mean?
As far as I read about it, all 3 systems are all pretty much the same:
they provide information on effects in the athmosphere that can
influence the speed of the radio-signal from the satellite to the
receiver (and therefor the precision of the measurements).
What exactly do you mean by "ranging" ?
(this is one of the reason I prerefed the GPS to have EGNOS-support. At
least, it would give me something "real" to test instead of just
articles to read. ;-(
Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
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> As of yesterday, I have a garmin nuvi 255T with -according the
> information I find on the web- a sirfstar III chip and support for egnos.
> However, when I look at the information from the satellite signals it
> receives, I do not see any of the egnos satellites or any other
> satellites with a satid above 32 for that matter.
> Also, the precision of the signal is always above 10 meters.
> So,
> - does anybody know if the egnos-system is currently operational over
> Europe.
> - if this particular receiver does indeed support egnos
> - if there is some advanced option I need to enter to enable egnos suppor=