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Posted by Johnson on March 12, 2010, 1:24 pm


I am testing a new GPS RFIC with my colleagues. The evolution board
falls to the ground and the antenna connector is broken from the PCB. It
will take at least a few days to get some new RFIC, and I really don't
want the tests to be delayed. Our technician said he could solder a new
antenna jack back to the PCB and everything will be fine. However, I am
not sure if the soldering work may affect the performance of GPS RFIC.
Do you think the GPS RFIC performance is likely to be affected by the
soldering work nearby? If how bad it might be, 1 dB loss or 3 dB loss?

Thank you.

Johnson


Posted by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht on March 12, 2010, 3:17 pm



> I am testing a new GPS RFIC with my colleagues. The evolution board
> falls to the ground and the antenna connector is broken from the
> PCB. It will take at least a few days to get some new RFIC, and I
> really don't want the tests to be delayed. Our technician said he
> could solder a new antenna jack back to the PCB and everything will be
> fine. However, I am not sure if the soldering work may affect the
> performance of GPS RFIC. Do you think the GPS RFIC performance is
> likely to be affected by the soldering work nearby? If how bad it
> might be, 1 dB loss or 3 dB loss?

Remember all the trouble Space Command had when they changed what was
plugged into a connector and ran out of time for testing? Is this
really any different? If you can't test the reflections that the new
system has relative to the old one, what value do the other tests that
you are doing going to have?

-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
non-overlapping WIFI channels?

Posted by Jeff on March 13, 2010, 7:52 am


Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>> I am testing a new GPS RFIC with my colleagues. The evolution board
>> falls to the ground and the antenna connector is broken from the
>> PCB. It will take at least a few days to get some new RFIC, and I
>> really don't want the tests to be delayed. Our technician said he
>> could solder a new antenna jack back to the PCB and everything will be
>> fine. However, I am not sure if the soldering work may affect the
>> performance of GPS RFIC. Do you think the GPS RFIC performance is
>> likely to be affected by the soldering work nearby? If how bad it
>> might be, 1 dB loss or 3 dB loss?
>
> Remember all the trouble Space Command had when they changed what was
> plugged into a connector and ran out of time for testing? Is this
> really any different? If you can't test the reflections that the new
> system has relative to the old one, what value do the other tests that
> you are doing going to have?
>
> -wolfgan

Surely it is a new evaluation board that you require NOT new ic's!!

If you are asking if the soldering will affect the actual ics then the
answer is no as long as Static precautions are observed. If you are
asking if putting a new connector onto the board will change things then
that is impossible to answer as it depends exactly on how well the job
is done. If could range from actually improving things to a complete
disaster.

Jeff

Posted by Alan Browne on March 13, 2010, 1:22 pm


On 10-03-13 7:52 , Jeff wrote:
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>>> I am testing a new GPS RFIC with my colleagues. The evolution board
>>> falls to the ground and the antenna connector is broken from the
>>> PCB. It will take at least a few days to get some new RFIC, and I
>>> really don't want the tests to be delayed. Our technician said he
>>> could solder a new antenna jack back to the PCB and everything will be
>>> fine. However, I am not sure if the soldering work may affect the
>>> performance of GPS RFIC. Do you think the GPS RFIC performance is
>>> likely to be affected by the soldering work nearby? If how bad it
>>> might be, 1 dB loss or 3 dB loss?
>> Remember all the trouble Space Command had when they changed what was
>> plugged into a connector and ran out of time for testing? Is this
>> really any different? If you can't test the reflections that the new
>> system has relative to the old one, what value do the other tests that
>> you are doing going to have?
>> -wolfgan
> Surely it is a new evaluation board that you require NOT new ic's!!
> If you are asking if the soldering will affect the actual ics then the
> answer is no as long as Static precautions are observed. If you are
> asking if putting a new connector onto the board will change things then
> that is impossible to answer as it depends exactly on how well the job
> is done. If could range from actually improving things to a complete
> disaster.

He's talking about soldering something in the antenna to receiver chain.
Such may create impedance mismatches that reduce signal.

I wouldn't worry about it myself, it can't be any worse that the sloppy
snap in connectors that are often used in GPS antenna to receivers.

But the end user may have particularly fine requirements that can't
tolerate signal loss.

--
gmail originated posts are filtered due to spam.

Posted by Bad Idea on March 12, 2010, 5:34 pm



If your organization is not competent to answer this question, then
they may not be competent to design and perform the test(s) you
mention. Have you considered contracting out the test(s)?

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