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Posted by Alan Browne on January 11, 2011, 1:34 pm

I just updated the map on my TomTom One XL.

About 2 years ago a major interchange near here was completely re-done.

On my friend's Garmin, no problem. It has the updated roadwork.

TomTom? Nope. I just got screwed out of $40. Not for that particular
intersection, but it just shows that whatever else was done, it's
probably years behind there as well.

TomTom keeps wasting my money just like the day I bought it.


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Posted by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht on January 11, 2011, 4:56 pm

> I just updated the map on my TomTom One XL.
> About 2 years ago a major interchange near here was completely re-done.
> On my friend's Garmin, no problem. It has the updated roadwork.
> TomTom? Nope. I just got screwed out of $40. Not for that
> particular intersection, but it just shows that whatever else was
> done, it's probably years behind there as well.
> TomTom keeps wasting my money just like the day I bought it.

Come to Android. ;-)

I wonder if Android actually phones home when the map data doesn't match
the car's path. A few times I've driven on a newish road that has been
there a year or so but wasn't on the map yet. A week or two after
driving it, it was there. Maybe it was a coincidence, but it is too
simple a hack to ignore forever.

And yes, I still use my garmin for backup. Having two GPS's is like
having two radios in a plane. You can use the other one for zooming out
and pan around while the first one is still showing the navigation
screens.

-wolfgang
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Posted by Mike Lane on January 11, 2011, 7:18 pm
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote on Jan 11, 2011:

> And yes, I still use my garmin for backup. Having two GPS's is like
> having two radios in a plane. You can use the other one for zooming out
> and pan around while the first one is still showing the navigation
> screens.

I've never admitted it before, but so do I. When I'm on a long trip I have my
old Garmin StreetPilot with the audio off, set to a north-up display with no
routing or navigation, showing my progress across the country. I also have a
Nuvi in normal navigation mode


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Posted by Greg Troxel on January 12, 2011, 9:51 am
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> I just updated the map on my TomTom One XL.
> About 2 years ago a major interchange near here was completely re-done.
> [no new intersection on TomTom]

Check out www.openstreetmap.org. One can convert the data to Garmin
format and use it for navigation. A little off sometimes, but you can
fix it and also benefit from others' fixes.

I use an etrex or an oregon with OSM data. Some day when I get around
to it I'll run them both with the garmin proprietary data in etrex and
OSM on oregon.

If the android navigator reports streets that aren't on the map, that's
in some sense cool but it's a huge privacy violation. I prefer a GPSr
that doesn't even have a data uplink.

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Posted by Wolfgang S. Rupprecht on January 12, 2011, 10:44 am

> If the android navigator reports streets that aren't on the map, that's
> in some sense cool but it's a huge privacy violation.

Most of the Google apps that can share GPS location with Google do have
a switch to turn the sharing off.

Personally, I'm much more concerned with the geolocation data in
pictures. I'm having a hard time convincing family members that they
really need to strip that data when posting at-home pictures.
Non-technical people just don't seem to get it.

When I post the pictures from a linux box I can run my stripping script.
(It over-writes the location data with the lat/log/alt of the local
police station. ;-)) The problem is cell phones don't seem to care about
that level of control. You can either drop the geolocation data at the
time you take the picture or not at all.

-wolfgang
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