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Posted by Tomislav Sakic on May 24, 2005, 9:39 am


I am using MapSource to prepare route on PC with MetroGuide USA v5 charts.
When I upload the route to Garmin 60CS, the route on device has two
waypoints.

Unit creates a direct route when I click on navigate and completly ignores
route information provided by MapSource.

How to transfer entire route to the unit using MetroGuide v5 charts?

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/Tomislav



Posted by David Lee on May 24, 2005, 10:46 am


Tomislav Sakic wrote...
>I am using MapSource to prepare route on PC with MetroGuide USA v5 charts.
>When I upload the route to Garmin 60CS, the route on device has two
>waypoints.
> Unit creates a direct route when I click on navigate and completly ignores
> route information provided by MapSource.
> How to transfer entire route to the unit using MetroGuide v5 charts?

Sounds like another example of excellent Garmin soft/firmware design! I'm
not familiar with the 60CS although I WAS considering buying one after
suffering extreme disappointment with a Vista - although the more I read the
more I think I'll stick with paper maps and my old yellow etrex! However I
think that "WinGDB" may do what you want. You may need to upgrade to a
recent version of MapSource first, so as to be able to save in .gdb format
(but beware of the latest beta version, which may be a downgrade rather than
an upgrade depending upon what you want it to do). Save your auto-generated
route as .gdb and then run wingdb to convert all the route via points to
either hidden or user waypoints. Then load the new file into MapSource and
send the route to your GPSR as normal.

You can download wingdb from
http://www.softsolutions.be/GPS/Garmin/wingdb.htm - you should be able to
read enough Dutch to find the link! (The original link is in a Yahoo group
but you have to apply to join it before you can download any files).

David



Posted by Seagull on May 24, 2005, 1:33 pm


> I am using MapSource to prepare route on PC with MetroGuide USA v5 charts.
> When I upload the route to Garmin 60CS, the route on device has two
> waypoints.

A 20-second Google search on this newsgroup shows that this question has
been asked and answered about a billion times. The answer is: the 60CS
is an autorouting GPS so only the start and end points for the route get
transferred. The GPS then expects to calculate the route on its own using
the maps it has loaded. Since MetroGuide v5 doesn't autoroute on GPS
units, the GPS can't do that.

Some people have suggested that switching to "off road" routing the GPS
before downloading the route will make it work, but I haven't seen any
confirmation of this.


Cheers,
-+JLS

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seagull @ aracnet.com \
http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/ \ (seize the guinea pig!)

Posted by David Lee on May 24, 2005, 7:03 pm


>> I am using MapSource to prepare route on PC with MetroGuide USA v5
>> charts.
>> When I upload the route to Garmin 60CS, the route on device has two
>> waypoints.
> A 20-second Google search on this newsgroup shows that this question has
> been asked and answered about a billion times. The answer is: the 60CS
> is an autorouting GPS so only the start and end points for the route get
> transferred. The GPS then expects to calculate the route on its own using
> the maps it has loaded. Since MetroGuide v5 doesn't autoroute on GPS
> units, the GPS can't do that.

Actually I would rather say that Garmin soft/firmware is utter crap and
doesn't give you the option of using your existing perfectly good bought and
paid for expensive **GARMIN** maps to produce routes via MapSource's inbuilt
Auto Routing. Instead they disable this functionality in a cynical attempt
to force you to shell out even more money for a mapping upgrade in order to
use the GPSR's Auto Routing. I can see no other reason why these units
shouldn't be able to handle either sort of routing, other than total
incompetence on the part of Garmin programmers.

As usual the solution is to make use of third party hacks such as the
extremely useful wingdb but this really shouldn't be necessary.

David



Posted by Seagull on May 24, 2005, 7:42 pm


> Actually I would rather say that Garmin soft/firmware is utter crap and
> doesn't give you the option of using your existing perfectly good bought and
> paid for expensive **GARMIN** maps to produce routes via MapSource's inbuilt
> Auto Routing.

Blah blah blah whine whine whine

MG is fully advertised as autorouting on the PC only. It is also about 2/3
to 1/2 the cost of City Select and is completely unlocked.

That being said, this poor interoperability between routes generated by
MG products and autorouting GPSr's is a bit silly. However, when the
device is set to autoroute, that is what it tries to do...so it would,
in effect, be sillier for it to just accept the route that is coming
in and not make use of its own autorouting capability. Hence the
recommendation to set the unit to "off road" mode so that doesn't happen
(assuming it works...I will try it tonight just for kicks).

Seems stupid, but it makes sense wrt to the implementation of the GPSr.


Cheers,
-+JLS

--
\ carpe cavy!
seagull @ aracnet.com \
http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/ \ (seize the guinea pig!)

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