
- GPS-Service-Denial-Testing
- 01-20-2011
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An area of possible GPS service denial is centered around a point off
the Georgia coast. The FAA and Coast Guard have issued warnings of
testing currently in progress.
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2011/Jan/GPS_Flight_Advisory_CSFTL11-01_Rel.pdf
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the Georgia coast. The FAA and Coast Guard have issued warnings of
testing currently in progress.
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2011/Jan/GPS_Flight_Advisory_CSFTL11-01_Rel.pdf
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One huge area. Must be a big honking jamming platform. Jamming area
centered at sea, so probably mounted on a destroyer or cruiser.
Wouldn't be surprised if their AEGIS radar can generate the jamming by
itself (For instance L2 band is also allocated for radar systems).
Is the area something officially announced by the US armed forces, or
just one huge rough estimate ?
Better some jamming than back to SA -Selective Availability !
Why have Obama canceled LORAN ! That would have been a great backup !
Marcelo Pacheco
macpacheco writes:
Because it's important to eliminate all backups to GPS, otherwise things
become way more difficult for terrorists with their jamming and spoofing
equipment. The same reason the FAA dreams of shutting down all VORs.
> Why have Obama canceled LORAN!
Because it's important to eliminate all backups to GPS, otherwise things
become way more difficult for terrorists with their jamming and spoofing
equipment. The same reason the FAA dreams of shutting down all VORs.
On 1/20/11 10:21 PM, Mxsmanic wrote:
Background
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN#The_future_of_LORAN
Federal Radio Navigation Plan
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/frp/frp2008/2008_Federal_Radionavigation_Plan.pdf
FAQ
http://www.gps.gov/support/faq/
> Because it's important to eliminate all backups to GPS, otherwise things
> become way more difficult for terrorists with their jamming and spoofing
> equipment. The same reason the FAA dreams of shutting down all VORs.
> become way more difficult for terrorists with their jamming and spoofing
> equipment. The same reason the FAA dreams of shutting down all VORs.
Background
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN#The_future_of_LORAN
Federal Radio Navigation Plan
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/frp/frp2008/2008_Federal_Radionavigation_Plan.pdf
FAQ
http://www.gps.gov/support/faq/
> On 1/20/11 10:21 PM, Mxsmanic wrote:
> > Because it's important to eliminate all backups to GPS, otherwise thing=
s
> > become way more difficult for terrorists with their jamming and spoofin=
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> > equipment. The same reason the FAA dreams of shutting down all VORs.
> =A0 =A0Background
> =A0 =A0 =A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN#The_future_of_LORAN
> =A0 =A0Federal Radio Navigation Plan
> http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/frp/frp2008/2008_Federal_Radionavigati...
> =A0 =A0FAQ
> =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.gps.gov/support/faq/
> =A0 =A0 =A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN#The_future_of_LORAN
> =A0 =A0Federal Radio Navigation Plan
> http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/frp/frp2008/2008_Federal_Radionavigati...
> =A0 =A0FAQ
> =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.gps.gov/support/faq/
My opinion is Loran-C was a crappy system (mainly due to poor
accuracy). As a primary means for navigation Loran-C was really a bad
idea. But eLoran, that's a completely different idea.
Shutdown down Loran-C operations (without destroying any
infrastructure needed for eLoran) wouldn't have been such a bad idea.
eLoran on the other hand would have been a very useful backup to GPS,
with it's 8 meter accuracy. Actually with 8 meter accuracy, eLoran
would be better than single frequency GPS. eLoran could have been used
to replace all DGPS stations, due to its long range and ability to
broadcast WAAS like corrections to GPS.
The FAA never said it plans to shutdown all VORs. Non essential VORs
will be decommissioned as they fail/require more than the normal
maintenance.
The really expensive part of the NAVAIDs ILS. At US$ 1 million a pop
to install and US$ 75k per yr to maintain, those are very expensive to
keep around.
Even than the plan is to also keep some ILSs as a last resort backup.
DMEs are actually far more important than VORs, since DME-DME is far
more accurate than VOR/DME or VOR/VOR navigation.
That's the plan in Europe, to eventually shutdown all VORs and keep a
minimum DME infra as a backup to GNSS + Egnos.
Upgrading current DME to active DME + GPS pseudolites would add a lot
of usefulness to current DME stations.
Wouldn't it be possible to add GPS like ranging to DGPS ? That could
be a solution now that Loran towers have been/will soon be dismantled.
The FUTURE of LORAN =3D none for USA. All hope ended with the
dismantling of Loran towers.
Do you think they will rebuild the transmission towers ?
UK however is moving forward with eLoran.
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> the Georgia coast. The FAA and Coast Guard have issued warnings of
> testing currently in progress.
> https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2011/Jan/GPS_Flight_Advisory_ ...
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