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Posted by polaris431 on July 8, 2006, 10:30 am


I just finished watching the video "What happened on the Moon" on
Google videos which seriously challenges whether the moon landing(s)
really occurred. I found the evidence very convincing. Yet I was rather
disappointed that one major piece of evidence was completely missing
altogether. This piece of evidence which I would like to explain below
is the most damning piece of evidence that virtually any engineer or
scientist can ascertain themselves if they are acquainted with optics,
calculations of orbits and a good background in math. So if you've
never come across this before, here it is...

Several years ago, the National Geographic magazine published an
article showing how a complex mathematical technique was used to
scientifically verify that Robert Peary really did reach the North
pole. See
http://www.pearyhenson.org/dougdavies/navigationreport2.htm

While the article could not verify that he was the 1st to reach the
pole, it did layout the evidence that he really was where he claimed he
was. The technique, as you probably know, is called photogrammetric
rectification. The Navigation Foundation based in Rockville, Maryland
carried out the calculations and was able to verify mathematically that
Peary really was on a certain latitude close to the North Pole. Some of
the parameters required to do this are:
A photograph showing an object with more than one shadow
The known (or assumed) time of year and time of day when the photograph
was taken
The focal point of the camera lens
Probably a few other parameters (but I'm not a mathematician - read the
NG article for more info)
By using photogrammetric rectification and having all of these
parameters available, it was demonstrated that Peary really was close
to the North Pole. The technique can only determine latitude and not
longitude. So what if we use the exact same technique and determine at
what lunar latitude the astronauts were on when they landed and the
photographs were taken. If they really were on the moon when they said
they were, we would have the following information:
the exact latitude where they were relative to the moon's north pole
the position of the sun at the time
the time of year and time of day
the focal point of the camera is known
plenty of photos with shadows
By applying photogrammetric rectification, you can verify whether the
astronauts really were on the correct latitude (where the Sea of
Tranquility is located) or any of the other locations they said they
were on subsequent landings. In fact, using photogrammetric
rectification with a few other parameters that are also available, it
is even possible to calculate the longitude.

I submit this challenge to the scientific community. I urge anyone who
is capable of carrying out this challenge to do so as soon as possible.
If the results indicate that the moon landing was a hoax, the three old
astronauts (Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins) may still be alive to answer
to these results.

For those of you with the ability and courage to carry this out and
have your results published in a reputable scientific publication, we
salute you as one of the greatest scientists/thinkers of our time.

Elijah Rosenburg


Posted by Dennis Pogson on July 8, 2006, 12:38 pm


polaris431@gmail.com wrote:
> I just finished watching the video "What happened on the Moon" on
> Google videos which seriously challenges whether the moon landing(s)
> really occurred. I found the evidence very convincing. Yet I was
> rather disappointed that one major piece of evidence was completely
> missing altogether. This piece of evidence which I would like to
> explain below is the most damning piece of evidence that virtually
> any engineer or scientist can ascertain themselves if they are
> acquainted with optics, calculations of orbits and a good background
> in math. So if you've never come across this before, here it is...
> Several years ago, the National Geographic magazine published an
> article showing how a complex mathematical technique was used to
> scientifically verify that Robert Peary really did reach the North
> pole. See
> http://www.pearyhenson.org/dougdavies/navigationreport2.htm
> While the article could not verify that he was the 1st to reach the
> pole, it did layout the evidence that he really was where he claimed
> he was. The technique, as you probably know, is called photogrammetric
> rectification. The Navigation Foundation based in Rockville, Maryland
> carried out the calculations and was able to verify mathematically
> that Peary really was on a certain latitude close to the North Pole.
> Some of the parameters required to do this are:
> A photograph showing an object with more than one shadow
> The known (or assumed) time of year and time of day when the
> photograph was taken
> The focal point of the camera lens
> Probably a few other parameters (but I'm not a mathematician - read
> the NG article for more info)
> By using photogrammetric rectification and having all of these
> parameters available, it was demonstrated that Peary really was close
> to the North Pole. The technique can only determine latitude and not
> longitude. So what if we use the exact same technique and determine at
> what lunar latitude the astronauts were on when they landed and the
> photographs were taken. If they really were on the moon when they said
> they were, we would have the following information:
> the exact latitude where they were relative to the moon's north pole
> the position of the sun at the time
> the time of year and time of day
> the focal point of the camera is known
> plenty of photos with shadows
> By applying photogrammetric rectification, you can verify whether the
> astronauts really were on the correct latitude (where the Sea of
> Tranquility is located) or any of the other locations they said they
> were on subsequent landings. In fact, using photogrammetric
> rectification with a few other parameters that are also available, it
> is even possible to calculate the longitude.
> I submit this challenge to the scientific community. I urge anyone who
> is capable of carrying out this challenge to do so as soon as
> possible. If the results indicate that the moon landing was a hoax,
> the three old astronauts (Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins) may still be
> alive to answer to these results.
> For those of you with the ability and courage to carry this out and
> have your results published in a reputable scientific publication, we
> salute you as one of the greatest scientists/thinkers of our time.
> Elijah Rosenburg

I know of a good psychiatrist who could help you.



Posted by GSV Three Minds in a Can on July 8, 2006, 3:20 pm


<snip cr&p>
>I know of a good psychiatrist who could help you.

If you must respond to cr&p, at least snip the bits not relevant to your
reply - in this case, all of it.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Google may be your friend, but groups.google.com posters definitely aren't.

Posted by polaris431 on July 9, 2006, 10:03 am


> I know of a good psychiatrist who could help you.

Provided he has a doctorate in math, physics and optics, I'd be glad if
you forwarded me his e-mail address.


Posted by Marc Brett on July 8, 2006, 12:44 pm


On 8 Jul 2006 07:30:29 -0700, polaris431@gmail.com wrote:

>If the results indicate that the moon landing was a hoax, the three old
>astronauts (Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins) may still be alive to answer
>to these results.

I think Buzz Aldrin has already answered this pretty convincingly:
http://www.csicop.org/articles/20021018-aldrin/


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