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Posted by TiTaN_pi8 on March 4, 2006, 1:45 pm



Hellow,

On most webpages I find that the speed of the GPS satellites is about
11000 km/h (some also say 12000 km/h).

But if I calculate the speed that a
satellite must have in order to stay in it's orbit at a height of 20240 km, I
find 13938 km/h as the result.

Here is the calculation:

v= sqrt(G* mA/(rA+h))

where v = velocity (speed)
G = 6.67*10^-11 (N*m²)/kg²
mA= the earth's mass =
59.8*10^23 kg
rA= the earth's radius = 6.37*10^6 m

after filling in these
numbers:

v = sqrt(3.99*10^14/(6.37*10^6+20,240*10^6))
v = 3871.61 m/s
v = 13938
km/s

why is the result so much off from the data on the websites? Am I doing
something wrong?

Thanks a lot!!


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Posted by DingBAT on March 4, 2006, 11:17 pm



> Something odd here:
>> v = sqrt(3.99*1014/(6.37*106+20,240*106))
> TiTaN_pi8 wrote:
>> Hellow,
>> On most webpages I find that the speed of the GPS satellites is about
>> 11000 km/h (some also say 12000 km/h).
>> But if I calculate the speed that a satellite must have in order to stay
>> in it's orbit at a height of 20240 km, I find 13938 km/h as the result.
>> Here is the calculation:
>> v= sqrt(G* mA/(rA+h))
>> where v = velocity (speed)
>> G = 6.67*10^-11 (N*m²)/kg²
>> mA= the earth's mass = 59.8*10^23 kg
>> rA= the earth's radius = 6.37*10^6 m
>> after filling in these numbers:
>> v = sqrt(3.99*10^14/(6.37*10^6+20,240*10^6))
>> v = 3871.61 m/s
>> v = 13938 km/s
>> why is the result so much off from the data on the websites? Am I doing
>> something wrong?
>> Thanks a lot!!

YES



Posted by Sam Wormley on March 4, 2006, 11:21 pm


TiTaN_pi8 wrote:
> Hellow,
>
> On most webpages I find that the speed of the GPS satellites is about 11000
km/h (some also say 12000 km/h).
>
> But if I calculate the speed that a satellite must have in order to stay in
it's orbit at a height of 20240 km, I find 13938 km/h as the result.
>
> Here is the calculation:
>
> v= sqrt(G* mA/(rA+h))
>
> where v = velocity (speed)
> G = 6.67*10^-11 (N*m²)/kg²
> mA= the earth's mass = 59.8*10^23 kg
> rA= the earth's radius = 6.37*10^6 m
>
> after filling in these numbers:
>
> v = sqrt(3.99*10^14/(6.37*10^6+20,240*10^6))
> v = 3871.61 m/s
> v = 13938 km/s
>
> why is the result so much off from the data on the websites? Am I doing
something wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot!!
>
>

Take a look at the figure you are using for rA+h.

You can get the square root of the semimajor axis for each satellite
from the YUMA data
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/ftp/GPS/almanacs/yuma/yuma341.txt
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/ftp/GPS/almanacs/yuma/
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/almanacs.htm

Regards,
-Sam


Posted by Sam Wormley on March 4, 2006, 11:39 pm


TiTaN_pi8 wrote:
> Hellow,
>
> On most webpages I find that the speed of the GPS satellites is about 11000
km/h (some also say 12000 km/h).
>
> But if I calculate the speed that a satellite must have in order to stay in
it's orbit at a height of 20240 km, I find 13938 km/h as the result.
>
> Here is the calculation:
>
> v= sqrt(G* mA/(rA+h))
>
> where v = velocity (speed)
> G = 6.67*10^-11 (N*m²)/kg²
> mA= the earth's mass = 59.8*10^23 kg
> rA= the earth's radius = 6.37*10^6 m
>
> after filling in these numbers:
>
> v = sqrt(3.99*10^14/(6.37*10^6+20,240*10^6))
> v = 3871.61 m/s
> v = 13938 km/s
>
> why is the result so much off from the data on the websites? Am I doing
something wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot!!
>
>

I get

http://www.google.com/search?q=sqrt%28%28G *6*10%5E24+kg%29%2F%282.65596*10%5E7+m%29%29
based on the radius of a satellite from YUMA data.

Posted by Phil Wheeler on March 5, 2006, 12:20 am


Where did you read 11,000 km/hr for a GPS sat? Are you sure that is not
for GEO?

Phil

TiTaN_pi8 wrote:
> Hellow,
>
> On most webpages I find that the speed of the GPS satellites is about 11000
km/h (some also say 12000 km/h).
>
> But if I calculate the speed that a satellite must have in order to stay in
it's orbit at a height of 20240 km, I find 13938 km/h as the result.
>
> Here is the calculation:
>
> v= sqrt(G* mA/(rA+h))
>
> where v = velocity (speed)
> G = 6.67*10^-11 (N*m²)/kg²
> mA= the earth's mass = 59.8*10^23 kg
> rA= the earth's radius = 6.37*10^6 m
>
> after filling in these numbers:
>
> v = sqrt(3.99*10^14/(6.37*10^6+20,240*10^6))
> v = 3871.61 m/s
> v = 13938 km/s
>
> why is the result so much off from the data on the websites? Am I doing
something wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot!!
>
>

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