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- 03-06-2009
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| Atom Egoyan | 03-06-2009 |
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| Luca Morandini | 03-06-2009 |
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| Atom Egoyan | 03-06-2009 |
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| Maciej Sieczka | 03-08-2009 |
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I am working on a project at work where we need a GIS system. However
I am getting a bit lost with all the different systems out there.
The requirements we need are pretty basic.
We have a website we want populated with Geo Content. We have
locations in europe which we want to link to POI's nearby.
So for instance there are 10 hotels in paris which are 10k's from the
eiffel tower.
we would need a system where we can input certain POI's in france and
also input certain hotel locations and then say for instance we want a
circle of 10k around the eiffel towers and all hotels in that radius
should be marked with a label eiffel tower.
also we want to do this with certain areas. ie we want to mark
beaches, create our own vectors of that beach and then mark certain
hotels as in walking distance of that beach.
This is the basic back end functionality we need. Also in the future
we would like this to be graphically represented in a map (ie. google
maps or similar).
What GIS system do you guys recommend that can do this?
Many Thanks,
Erik Withoud
I am getting a bit lost with all the different systems out there.
The requirements we need are pretty basic.
We have a website we want populated with Geo Content. We have
locations in europe which we want to link to POI's nearby.
So for instance there are 10 hotels in paris which are 10k's from the
eiffel tower.
we would need a system where we can input certain POI's in france and
also input certain hotel locations and then say for instance we want a
circle of 10k around the eiffel towers and all hotels in that radius
should be marked with a label eiffel tower.
also we want to do this with certain areas. ie we want to mark
beaches, create our own vectors of that beach and then mark certain
hotels as in walking distance of that beach.
This is the basic back end functionality we need. Also in the future
we would like this to be graphically represented in a map (ie. google
maps or similar).
What GIS system do you guys recommend that can do this?
Many Thanks,
Erik Withoud
This is a classic 'we need a GIS; what should we get?' question.
Without some idea of the scale of your project, the equipment
you have, it's like asking 'what sort of computer do I need?'.
The market leader is ESRI's ArcGIS, which provides a complete GIS
solution, including a web-enabled server interface [ArcServer] and
associate geodatabase. It'll serve your data real-time to anyone
logged into your website, and provide just about every GIS
functionality in the known universe. It's what the professionals
use. Last time I looked, it cost about $30K per seat.
Another commercial GIS is Manifold, which also comes with a web
server option. It's cheaper than ArcGIS [about 1000% cheaper], and
can do a lot of the same things. Costs between $500-800, depending
on features included.
Quantum GIS is a hobbyist GIS with minimal features. It is not
web-enabled, but you could use it for data manipulation fairly
easily. Oh, and it's free. So also are ILWIS, Spring, CHiPS, and GRASS,
but I doubt you want to go there.
If you know the names of a few GIS packages, I don't doubt people
here can offer comments. I think I've probably used every commercial
and non-commercial GIS and remote sensing package in existence.
Just to be extra-helpful, here's a list:
CHIPS
ENVI
ERMapper 6.4
GIS Explorer
Leica Photogrammetry Suite
MapInfo7.5
Mappoint
OSSIM
OpenEV
OzGIS
Quantum GIS
SAGA
TatukGIS
eCognition
Geomatica
Grass
Idrisi
Ilwis
Manifold
Multispec
Opticks
Spring
Tanasoft
Tatukgis
Udig GIS
Wheat
Atom Egoyan
Melbourne, Australia
Without some idea of the scale of your project, the equipment
you have, it's like asking 'what sort of computer do I need?'.
The market leader is ESRI's ArcGIS, which provides a complete GIS
solution, including a web-enabled server interface [ArcServer] and
associate geodatabase. It'll serve your data real-time to anyone
logged into your website, and provide just about every GIS
functionality in the known universe. It's what the professionals
use. Last time I looked, it cost about $30K per seat.
Another commercial GIS is Manifold, which also comes with a web
server option. It's cheaper than ArcGIS [about 1000% cheaper], and
can do a lot of the same things. Costs between $500-800, depending
on features included.
Quantum GIS is a hobbyist GIS with minimal features. It is not
web-enabled, but you could use it for data manipulation fairly
easily. Oh, and it's free. So also are ILWIS, Spring, CHiPS, and GRASS,
but I doubt you want to go there.
If you know the names of a few GIS packages, I don't doubt people
here can offer comments. I think I've probably used every commercial
and non-commercial GIS and remote sensing package in existence.
Just to be extra-helpful, here's a list:
CHIPS
ENVI
ERMapper 6.4
GIS Explorer
Leica Photogrammetry Suite
MapInfo7.5
Mappoint
OSSIM
OpenEV
OzGIS
Quantum GIS
SAGA
TatukGIS
eCognition
Geomatica
Grass
Idrisi
Ilwis
Manifold
Multispec
Opticks
Spring
Tanasoft
Tatukgis
Udig GIS
Wheat
Atom Egoyan
Melbourne, Australia
>The requirements we need are pretty basic.
>We have a website we want populated with Geo Content. We have
>locations in europe which we want to link to POI's nearby.
>locations in europe which we want to link to POI's nearby.
>So for instance there are 10 hotels in paris which are 10k's from the
>eiffel tower.
>eiffel tower.
>we would need a system where we can input certain POI's in france and
>also input certain hotel locations and then say for instance we want a
>circle of 10k around the eiffel towers and all hotels in that radius
>should be marked with a label eiffel tower.
>also input certain hotel locations and then say for instance we want a
>circle of 10k around the eiffel towers and all hotels in that radius
>should be marked with a label eiffel tower.
>also we want to do this with certain areas. ie we want to mark
>beaches, create our own vectors of that beach and then mark certain
>hotels as in walking distance of that beach.
>beaches, create our own vectors of that beach and then mark certain
>hotels as in walking distance of that beach.
>This is the basic back end functionality we need. Also in the future
>we would like this to be graphically represented in a map (ie. google
>maps or similar).
>we would like this to be graphically represented in a map (ie. google
>maps or similar).
>What GIS system do you guys recommend that can do this?
>Many Thanks,
>Erik Withoud
Atom Egoyan wrote:
Actually, it's called ArcGIS Server... ARCServer being a tape backup
software.
ArcGIS Server costs a multiple of that, last time I looked.
Anyway, If Erik wants to serve maps on the web, a good open source (and
OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer would do too.
I beg to differ: with the GRASS plugin you can do almost anything GRASS
can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user interface... and
GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
Regards,
--------------------
Luca Morandini
www.lucamorandini.it
--------------------
>
> The market leader is ESRI's ArcGIS, which provides a complete GIS
> solution, including a web-enabled server interface [ArcServer]
> The market leader is ESRI's ArcGIS, which provides a complete GIS
> solution, including a web-enabled server interface [ArcServer]
Actually, it's called ArcGIS Server... ARCServer being a tape backup
software.
> and
> associate geodatabase. It'll serve your data real-time to anyone
> logged into your website, and provide just about every GIS
> functionality in the known universe. It's what the professionals
> use. Last time I looked, it cost about $30K per seat.
> associate geodatabase. It'll serve your data real-time to anyone
> logged into your website, and provide just about every GIS
> functionality in the known universe. It's what the professionals
> use. Last time I looked, it cost about $30K per seat.
ArcGIS Server costs a multiple of that, last time I looked.
Anyway, If Erik wants to serve maps on the web, a good open source (and
OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer would do too.
> Quantum GIS is a hobbyist GIS with minimal features.
I beg to differ: with the GRASS plugin you can do almost anything GRASS
can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user interface... and
GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
Regards,
--------------------
Luca Morandini
www.lucamorandini.it
--------------------
>Atom Egoyan wrote:
[...]
>Anyway, If Erik wants to serve maps on the web, a good open source (and
>OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer would do too.
>OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer would do too.
Assuming he has some other means of preparing the map data.
>> Quantum GIS is a hobbyist GIS with minimal features.
>I beg to differ: with the GRASS plugin you can do almost anything GRASS
>can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user interface... and
>GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
>can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user interface... and
>GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
OK. I think we could agree GRASS can do a lot. But, could we also
agree that the process of getting Erik's data into a form suitable
for use in GRASS and then serving it over the web is way overkill
for what we know of his project? He wants [I infer] a relatively
straightforward path to his final destination.
The elephant in the room for most GIS applications is the data
manipulation or transformations required to get the information
into a form where it can be used. Most business analysis of GIS
projects put this at 60-80% of the cost. As soon as you tranform
your data from one format to another [whether file format,
geographic co-ordinate system or geodatabase], things start to
become just that little bit complicated. GRASS has its own, very
special, file format, quite unlike any other. Quantum GIS will
let you use the standard formats [shapefile, MIF, etc], right up
until you want to use the GRASS plugins. Then you have to take
time out to transform it into a different format. I think the
database interface in Quantum is counterintuitive, as well, but
that really is just my opinion.
Atom Egoyan
Atom Egoyan pisze:
Talking about MapServer - QGIS has a plugin for exporting the QGIS
project to a MapServer mapfile.
Besides GRASS integration, there is also fTools plugin [1] (contained in
OGR-supported vector format (i.e. Shapefile and more [2]). Written in
Python, thus easily extendible if needed.
What do you mean by "database interface"?
Maciek
[1]http://www.ftools.ca/fTools.html
[2]http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html
--
Maciej Sieczka
www.sieczka.org
>> Atom Egoyan wrote:
>> Anyway, If Erik wants to serve maps on the web, a good open source
>> (and OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer
>> would do too.
>> (and OGC standards-compliant) solution is GeoServer... MapServer
>> would do too.
> Assuming he has some other means of preparing the map data.
Talking about MapServer - QGIS has a plugin for exporting the QGIS
project to a MapServer mapfile.
>>> Quantum GIS is a hobbyist GIS with minimal features.
>> I beg to differ: with the GRASS plugin you can do almost anything
>> GRASS can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user
>> interface... and GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
>> GRASS can do from within the confortable QuantumGIS user
>> interface... and GRASS can do a hell of a lot.
Besides GRASS integration, there is also fTools plugin [1] (contained in
stock installation of QGIS >= 1.0). It provides quite a rich set of
tools for sampling, analysis and geometry operations on any
OGR-supported vector format (i.e. Shapefile and more [2]). Written in
Python, thus easily extendible if needed.
> I think the database interface in Quantum is counterintuitive, as
> well, but that really is just my opinion.
> well, but that really is just my opinion.
What do you mean by "database interface"?
Maciek
[1]http://www.ftools.ca/fTools.html
[2]http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html
--
Maciej Sieczka
www.sieczka.org






>I am getting a bit lost with all the different systems out there.