Remove a road?

Joel wrote:


There is a new turnpike bridge next to it. The BEasly Point bridge is
the old highway 9 bridge which was abandonned when the other bridge was
built. Problem is that highway 9 now uses the new bridge which is off
limits to cyclists. So the beasly point bridge remained opened for
cyclists and fisherman for all those years until this summer.


The DETOUR option, if it existed on my GPS (60Csx) would still cost me a
lot of excess distance because it would be triggered at the bridge
itself, instead of being triggered at the start of the trip where a
totally different route would be selected to avoid that bridge.

Again, in a car, you don't care if you have to do an extra 40km. But on
a bike, when you have to catch a ferry, that 40km is a show stopper.

I used this example because for me, crossing new jersey to catch the
18:00 ferry at cape may was a huge challenge, both in finding a route
and in riding the 210km to arrive Cape May before the last ferry.

Arriving at bridge, realising it was closed would have required I
backtrack quite a bit, then go all the way to coast to Wildwood cross
egg harbour there and then come back inland to rejoin the 9.

Starting on a totally different route in northern new jersey allowed me
to reach cape may with acceptable distance and totally avoiding that
bridge. But I had to manually plot that route with many waypoints to
ensure the GPS would use that route.

I did make the ferry with 15 minutes to spare (on a 10 hour ride, that
is cutting it close).

        I don't live in that area to have a true view of the picture, but by what
you are saying then it's telling me that the bridge isn't important to
public but more like some kind of special interest. Because

- Unless something terrible happens to the bridge that city has to blow it
up to build another bridge to replace it. City doesn't have a chance to
build a replacement bridge first before destryong the old and dangerous
bridge.

        IOW, building, repairing a road or bridge should be a well planned project
(for business, transportation, resident etc..) not just do whatever city
wants.

- As I have mentioned, in some case city may have to take down the old
bridge, and blocking access to the other side for FEW MONTHS (for the safety
of workers working on newer bridge next to it). And may depend on few other
situation. Like

        a. The other side isn't very important (not much business)

        b. Somewhere at the state border where one state doesn't care much about
                 the business of other state.

        c. And no matter what, they may not have the other bridge or road within
                 few blocks. They should have several within 2-5 miles.


        That's the feature we call LIFE. And it doesn't matter if you have 60cSX,
Nuvi, or papermap, when LIFE strikes we will have to trigger our brain to
learn to accept the fact of life, while trying to figure out the solution.


        It doesn;'t matter if you, I, or others care or not. You know nobody
cares to have any kind of trouble. And you should know a bridge shouldn't
cause that much problem to begin with.


        Why do you have to manually when you *already* knew more than you really
need to know?

- You already knew is the bridge is off limit

- You *already* knew is will give you extra 40km

- You *already* knew it's not the best route

        Then why just IGNORE that route. And if you already knew the route so
well then why not just turn off the GPS, or you don't really need the GPS to
begind with.


        Couple years ago I drove through the states been effected by hurricane
Katrina. It was around 24+ hours drive, I had no idea what I may run into,
it was total darkness, many old streets were badly damaged/destroyed so they
built or lead to other street or whatever... It was so dark for me to see
anything, but many times I saw the Car Icon was OFF the.

        It was little scary, but I made it through without complaining thing I
have no control. And it may not easy to get through without the GPS, and I
was so glad that I had the GPS instead of complaining about the old bridge
and old routes were gone.

I don't believe I have OCD!

However, if I have a technically advanced product then I do like it to work
to the standard expected and if there is a problem that can be rectified by
some setting then I like to do it.

I have now used Mapsource to create an avoidance - I will see if it works
when it finishes updating my unit.

The fact that the avoidance is near my home makes my Garmin appear to my
passengers to be an incompetent but of kit if it tries to always send me
down a closed road. If I can fix it then I will - it is a challenge and a
learning experience.

Thanks for your help.

So, now we see the REAL problem: you think others perceive a flaw in
your manhood if the gadget you chose is somehow not performing in a way
that you determine it should.

Never mind that the others don't know how the gadget should or should
not behave.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on Aug 25, 2010:


I must admit that I had the same hang-ups in the very early days of satnav.
About 10 years ago I bought a car (a Toyota) with a built-in Satnav. The
display was rather primitive but the spoken directions given over the car's
audio were amazing at the time. I used to impress my friends with it whenever
possible and I have to say I would have been mortified if it had directed me
along a non-existant road.


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Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com