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Posted by TVNAV.com on July 22, 2008, 1:50 am
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Here is a reply I got from GARMIN when I forwarded this thread to =
them. Please reply to this post to techsupp@garmin.com with the serial =
number. Thanks.
--=20


Darrel Goheen
GPS@tvnav.com
http://www.tvnav.com









----- Original Message -----=20
From: techsupp@garmin.com=20
To: TVNAV.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Stolen GPS Units - CBS News (KMM3993614I15977L0KM)


Dear TVNAV.com,

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.
I will be happy to help you with this. What is the serial number and I=20
will contact the owner.=20
With Best Regards,

Amy L
Product Support Specialist
2nd Shift Automotive Team
Garmin International
913-397-8200
800-800-1020
913-397-8282 (fax) Att: Amy L
www.garmin.com



Original Message Follows:
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Nunya Bidness
Newsgroups: alt.satellite.gps.garmin
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Stolen GPS Units - CBS News


Oh, so you think I knew it was stolen when I bought it?
Like Bugs Bunny used to say- what a maroon! I only found
out it was stolen after I listed it on eBay, sold it, and
the buyer couldn't register it. Naturally I refunded his
money and he shipped it back to me. Then I contacted the
police, who refused to get involved in returning it to
it's owner. So- like I said, if anyone here is missing an
iQue, post your serial number, and if it matches the one
I've got, I'll send it back to you n/c. -Nunya

> By purchasing a stolen iQue you have just made the problem of stolen
> property worse. Don't encourage these thieves.
> HA! I've got posession of a stolen iQue and Garmin
> won't tell me who it belongs to so I can send it back
> to them! I bought it at a flea market for $100.00.
> You'd think they would want the owner to have it back,
> but no... I think they'd rather him buy a new one!
> And the police don't really care about getting it back
> to him either- they refused to work with me on it!
> If anyone on the list is missing an iQue, post the
> serial number here, and if it matches the one I
> have, I'll get in contact with you and send it back
> to you no charge. I purchased it at the Fort Mill, SC
> flea market from an Indian (India Indian, not American
> Indian) about a year ago.
Joel@NoSpam.plz
> says...
> > > Stolen GPS Units
> > > http://www.juststolen.net
> > > CBS Evening News =E2=3D3F=3D3F Stolen GPS Units
> > > =
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/06/eveningnews/main3996714.shtml?s=
ource=3Dsearch_story
> > > This situation is more prevalent than you may think. We estimate=20
that
> > > 2,604,900 GPS units will be stolen over the next 24 months in the=20
US.
> > > To compound the problem, even if the police were to find the thief
and
> > > recover your GPS unit, they have almost no idea who owns it or how
to
> > > get it back to you! Why? Because you never wrote down the serial
> > > numbers and the paperwork accompanying it is long gone. You filed=20
a
> > > police report, but with no serial number to report, your GPS could
be
> > > stored away in some police evidence room with thousands of others=20
just
> > > like it across the state or across the country, never to be=20
returned
> > > to you again.
> > You mean we have been paying hundred(s) of millions of dollars=20
yearly=20
> > for
> > the stupid cops they are only good of beating up and killing the US
> > citizents?
> > Or they would ask Garmin or Garmin owner how Garmin protect the=20
> > software.
> > Not all users register, but if the cop want to find out then it's=20
one of
> > the
> > ways. But I don't think they care to return it in the first place.




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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dtechsupp@garmin.com=20
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear&nbsp; TVNAV.com,<BR><BR>Thank you for contacting =
Garmin=20
International.<BR>I will be happy to help you with this. What is the =
serial=20
number and I <BR>will contact the owner. <BR>With Best =
Regards,<BR><BR>Amy=20
L<BR>Product Support Specialist<BR>2nd Shift Automotive Team<BR>Garmin=20
International<BR>913-397-8200<BR>800-800-1020<BR>913-397-8282 (fax) Att: =
Amy=20
l=20
Message Follows:<BR>------------------------<BR><BR>----- Original =
Message -----=20
<BR>From: Nunya Bidness<BR>Newsgroups: alt.satellite.gps.garmin<BR>Sent: =
Monday,=20
July 21, 2008 11:22 AM<BR>Subject: Re: Stolen GPS Units - CBS=20
News<BR><BR><BR>Oh, so you think I knew it was stolen when I bought =
it?<BR>Like=20
Bugs Bunny used to say- what a maroon! I only found<BR>out it was stolen =
after I=20
listed it on eBay, sold it, and<BR>the buyer couldn't register it. =
Naturally I=20
refunded his<BR>money and he shipped it back to me. Then I contacted=20
the<BR>police, who refused to get involved in returning it to<BR>it's =
owner. So-=20
like I said, if anyone here is missing an<BR>iQue, post your serial =
number, and=20
if it matches the one<BR>I've got, I'll send it back to you n/c.=20
-Nunya<BR><BR>In article &lt;<A=20
;, <A=20
says...<BR>&gt; By=20
purchasing a stolen iQue you have just made the problem of =
stolen<BR>&gt;=20
property worse.&nbsp; Don't encourage these thieves.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
"Nunya=20
Bidness" &lt;<A =
wrote in message<BR>&gt; <A=20
2ec6d1d59e3bba19896d9@news.usenetserver.com</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
HA! I've got posession of a stolen iQue and Garmin<BR>&gt; won't tell me =
who it=20
belongs to so I can send it back<BR>&gt; to them! I bought it at a flea =
market=20
for $100.00.<BR>&gt; You'd think they would want the owner to have it=20
back,<BR>&gt; but no... I think they'd rather him buy a new one!<BR>&gt; =
And the=20
police don't really care about getting it back<BR>&gt; to him either- =
they=20
refused to work with me on it!<BR>&gt; If anyone on the list is missing =
an iQue,=20
post the<BR>&gt; serial number here, and if it matches the one I<BR>&gt; =
have,=20
I'll get in contact with you and send it back<BR>&gt; to you no charge. =
I=20
purchased it at the Fort Mill, SC<BR>&gt; flea market from an Indian =
(India=20
Indian, not American<BR>&gt; Indian) about a year ago.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
In=20
article &lt;<A=20
21qm6i5nn7ug1873io65@4ax.com</A>&gt;,=20
says...<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; Crime reporting group &lt;<A=20
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Stolen GPS Units<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.juststolen.net/">http://www.juststolen.net</A><BR>&gt;=
&gt;=20
&gt; CBS Evening News =E2=3D3F=3D3F Stolen GPS Units<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/06/eveningnews/main3996714=
.shtml?source=3Dsearch_story">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/06/e=
veningnews/main3996714.shtml?source=3Dsearch_story</A><BR>&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; This situation is more prevalent than you may think. We =
estimate=20
<BR>that<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 2,604,900 GPS units will be stolen over the =
next 24=20
months in the <BR>US.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To compound the problem, even if =
the=20
police were to find the thief<BR>and<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; recover your GPS =
unit,=20
they have almost no idea who owns it or how<BR>to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; get =
it back=20
to you! Why? Because you never wrote down the serial<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
numbers=20
and the paperwork accompanying it is long gone. You filed <BR>a<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; police report, but with no serial number to report, your GPS=20
could<BR>be<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; stored away in some police evidence room =
with=20
thousands of others <BR>just<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; like it across the state =
or=20
across the country, never to be <BR>returned<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; to you=20
again.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; You mean we have been paying hundred(s) =
of=20
millions of dollars <BR>yearly <BR>&gt; &gt; for<BR>&gt; &gt; the stupid =
cops=20
they are only good of beating up and killing the US<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
citizents?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Or they would ask Garmin or Garmin =
owner=20
how Garmin protect the <BR>&gt; &gt; software.<BR>&gt; &gt; Not all =
users=20
register, but if the cop want to find out then it's <BR>one of<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
the<BR>&gt; &gt; ways.&nbsp; But I don't think they care to return it in =
the=20
first place.<BR>&gt;=20
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Posted by Steve Calvin on July 22, 2008, 3:38 pm


TVNAV.com wrote:
> Here is a reply I got from GARMIN when I forwarded this thread to
> them. Please reply to this post to techsupp@garmin.com
> Dear TVNAV.com,
>
> Thank you for contacting Garmin International.
> I will be happy to help you with this. What is the serial number and I
> will contact the owner.
> With Best Regards,
>
> Amy L
> Product Support Specialist
> 2nd Shift Automotive Team
> Garmin International
> 913-397-8200
> 800-800-1020
> 913-397-8282 (fax) Att: Amy L
>


Thanks, I was in process of doing the exact same thing upon seeing
Edwins reply when I noticed this thread. Given the dealings that I have
had with Garmin through the years, I could not believe that they were
being that unreasonable either. It's not like they are releasing the
owners name to anyone w/o permission.

Heck, my guess is after contacting the owner, they'll act as a middle
man in returning it should that be necessary.

--
Steve