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>> I removed the rest of the post because it did not seem to help for
>> your questions. I will try to make my information a bit more
>> understandable.
>> your questions. I will try to make my information a bit more
>> understandable.
> I don't ask any question so you don't need to remove any.
> Before you walk into the wrong direction, just take a deep breath to study
> some of the very basic then go from there.
> - Dirt roads, rail-road, trails, desert and so on usually have nothing to
> do
> with the GPS unit itself. Just think of the GPS as a mini computer, and
> the
> computer can't operate without an OS, and can't do much without some
> specific aps with specific data.
> - Yup! you have mentioned Nevada which is part of USA and Europe, and if
> you realize that
> a. You can use the same GPS anywhere in the world
> b. You CAN'T use US Map in Europe country and other way around.
> Just by looking at the above alone, you may have figured out it means the
> GPS will depend on the MAP DATA to display the street information.
> - There are several different types of MAP Data as well as GPS units for
> different uses. There is regular map for driving which mostly for
> driving,
> there is map for hiking which has much smaller specific detail then
> automobile. And map for flying, boating, fishing etc..
> Some or most GPSes (especially newer) support most if not all MAPs, few
> models may not support some type of map which I can't remember.
> Also, some GPS designed for specific use like automobile, hiking, marine
> etc.. and some you can use for different interest. Example, you can use
> autobobile for marine or biking, you can use hiking for automobile,
> marine,
> biking. And of course if you want to use automobile on marine then you
> will
> need a specific marine map else your GPS may tell you to make U-Turn or to
> DRIVE to a near by street for it to continue.
> Before you walk into the wrong direction, just take a deep breath to study
> some of the very basic then go from there.
> - Dirt roads, rail-road, trails, desert and so on usually have nothing to
> do
> with the GPS unit itself. Just think of the GPS as a mini computer, and
> the
> computer can't operate without an OS, and can't do much without some
> specific aps with specific data.
> - Yup! you have mentioned Nevada which is part of USA and Europe, and if
> you realize that
> a. You can use the same GPS anywhere in the world
> b. You CAN'T use US Map in Europe country and other way around.
> Just by looking at the above alone, you may have figured out it means the
> GPS will depend on the MAP DATA to display the street information.
> - There are several different types of MAP Data as well as GPS units for
> different uses. There is regular map for driving which mostly for
> driving,
> there is map for hiking which has much smaller specific detail then
> automobile. And map for flying, boating, fishing etc..
> Some or most GPSes (especially newer) support most if not all MAPs, few
> models may not support some type of map which I can't remember.
> Also, some GPS designed for specific use like automobile, hiking, marine
> etc.. and some you can use for different interest. Example, you can use
> autobobile for marine or biking, you can use hiking for automobile,
> marine,
> biking. And of course if you want to use automobile on marine then you
> will
> need a specific marine map else your GPS may tell you to make U-Turn or to
> DRIVE to a near by street for it to continue.
>> First off I think you need a hand held unit such as a 76 or 60.
>> They will both do what you want. There are a few newer hand helds
>> but I personally do not care for any of them. Most of the
>> automotive type GPSR's do not last long when not connected to a power
>> source. Both the 60 and 76 have long battery time. They are the
>> same operating system and screen size. The form factor is the main
>> difference. Also the 76 floats. Both are waterproof.
>> As for seeing the dirt roads and trails, that is actually dependant on
>> the maps you load. I have been a Garmin customer for a lot of years
>> and I have some maps that show much more trails and dirt roads than
>> the newer maps.
>> http://gpsinformation.net/
>> Is a good place to go for information and reviews. Lots of good
>> information there.
>> There are also some free maps available that will work with those
>> units. Some have a lot of dirt roads and trails.
>> You may have to shop around to find those older units but they are
>> well worth it. I just did a Google search for them and both are
>> readily available. You might get a better deal buying a refurbished
>> unit. They come exactly like a new one. Same packaging, same
>> accessories, same warrantee, etc.
>> Good luck.
>> They will both do what you want. There are a few newer hand helds
>> but I personally do not care for any of them. Most of the
>> automotive type GPSR's do not last long when not connected to a power
>> source. Both the 60 and 76 have long battery time. They are the
>> same operating system and screen size. The form factor is the main
>> difference. Also the 76 floats. Both are waterproof.
>> As for seeing the dirt roads and trails, that is actually dependant on
>> the maps you load. I have been a Garmin customer for a lot of years
>> and I have some maps that show much more trails and dirt roads than
>> the newer maps.
>> http://gpsinformation.net/
>> Is a good place to go for information and reviews. Lots of good
>> information there.
>> There are also some free maps available that will work with those
>> units. Some have a lot of dirt roads and trails.
>> You may have to shop around to find those older units but they are
>> well worth it. I just did a Google search for them and both are
>> readily available. You might get a better deal buying a refurbished
>> unit. They come exactly like a new one. Same packaging, same
>> accessories, same warrantee, etc.
>> Good luck.
> I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with any
> street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> map.
> And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information of
> the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience with
> my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the information
> from QuestMap.
> street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> map.
> And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information of
> the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience with
> my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the information
> from QuestMap.
Yes they do!
It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers in)
--
Regards,
Richard Harison
> >> Good luck.
> > I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with any
> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> > map.
> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information of
> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience with
> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the information
> > from QuestMap.
> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> > map.
> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information of
> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience with
> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the information
> > from QuestMap.
>
>
> Yes they do!
> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers in)
>
> Yes they do!
> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers in)
Does the BASE map of 76 or 60 any different than the BASE map of other GPS
like StreetPilot, Nuvi etc?? I guess since it's designed specific for
hiking, biking etc. then the base map may have more data of the dirt road
instead of main hi-ways like GPS for automobile which is pretty mush useless
even for driving (ok for main hi-ways but not for street address).
>> >> Good luck.
>> > I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with
>> > any
>> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
>> > map.
>> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information
>> > of
>> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience
>> > with
>> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the
>> > information
>> > from QuestMap.
>> > I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with
>> > any
>> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
>> > map.
>> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information
>> > of
>> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience
>> > with
>> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the
>> > information
>> > from QuestMap.
>> Yes they do!
>> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
>> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers
>> in)
>> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
>> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers
>> in)
> Does the BASE map of 76 or 60 any different than the BASE map of other GPS
> like StreetPilot, Nuvi etc?? I guess since it's designed specific for
> hiking, biking etc. then the base map may have more data of the dirt road
> instead of main hi-ways like GPS for automobile which is pretty mush
> useless
> even for driving (ok for main hi-ways but not for street address).
> like StreetPilot, Nuvi etc?? I guess since it's designed specific for
> hiking, biking etc. then the base map may have more data of the dirt road
> instead of main hi-ways like GPS for automobile which is pretty mush
> useless
> even for driving (ok for main hi-ways but not for street address).
I don't really know about trails, etc., but I suspect base maps would be
very limited in specialized areas such as trails, marine et al.
Bet the ranch there is no topography
--
Regards,
Richard Harison
> >> >> Good luck.
> >> > I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with
> >> > any
> >> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> >> > map.
> >> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information
> >> > of
> >> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience
> >> > with
> >> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the
> >> > information
> >> > from QuestMap.
> >> Yes they do!
> >> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
> >> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers
> >> in)
> >> > I don't own any 76 nor 60, but my understand that they don't come with
> >> > any
> >> > street map. So even if it floats it won't be much help without street
> >> > map.
> >> > And from what I understand, street map may not have lot of information
> >> > of
> >> > the dirt road, hiking road etc.. It's based on my very own experience
> >> > with
> >> > my Nuvi and City Navigator 2010 street map. I had to find the
> >> > information
> >> > from QuestMap.
> >> Yes they do!
> >> It is called a Base map and it is reasonably good-- for starters
> >> You will then want to add your desired maps (i.e. where the $$ comers
> >> in)
> > Does the BASE map of 76 or 60 any different than the BASE map of other GPS
> > like StreetPilot, Nuvi etc?? I guess since it's designed specific for
> > hiking, biking etc. then the base map may have more data of the dirt road
> > instead of main hi-ways like GPS for automobile which is pretty mush
> > useless
> > even for driving (ok for main hi-ways but not for street address).
> > like StreetPilot, Nuvi etc?? I guess since it's designed specific for
> > hiking, biking etc. then the base map may have more data of the dirt road
> > instead of main hi-ways like GPS for automobile which is pretty mush
> > useless
> > even for driving (ok for main hi-ways but not for street address).
>
>
> I don't really know about trails, etc., but I suspect base maps would be
> very limited in specialized areas such as trails, marine et al.
> Bet the ranch there is no topography
>
> I don't really know about trails, etc., but I suspect base maps would be
> very limited in specialized areas such as trails, marine et al.
> Bet the ranch there is no topography
If its base map is same or similar to other Garmin GPSes like StreetPilot,
Nuvi etc.. then I don't think it has anything but the main hi-ways and most
main streets.
Here, I started with the MONO Garmin GPS which has built-in 16M of memory,
so when I went out of town or state I had to upload different BLOCKs (of map
or region) to internal memory.
Or without the street address map, it's pretty much like PAPER MAP of
state *not* city, or it's almost useless in city. Or you may have hard time
to find the way to a near by hi-way.
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>> >> with all
>> >> the different models available. I need a unit that will show dirt
>> >> roads and
>> >> trails, as I go off road in the Nevada desert. They are shown on
>> >> county
>> >> maps, but I want them on GPS. Also a unit I can use in Europe for
>> >> regular
>> >> roads and highways.
>> >> Bill
>> > Before you walk into the wrong direction, just take a deep breath to
>> > study
>> >some of the very basic then go from there.