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   Re: Lifetime Map updates for Garmin?
| Joseph Capgras | 05-26-2010 |
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| Peter H. Coffin | 05-28-2010 |
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| Elmo P. Shagnas... | 05-26-2010 |
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| Peter H. Coffin | 05-26-2010 |
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| Harry Stottle | 05-27-2010 |
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| Elmo P. Shagnas... | 05-27-2010 |
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| Mike Miller | 06-08-2010 |
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> On 5/26/2010 7:31 AM, Joel wrote:
> >>> They finally got around to me with the offer for lifetime updates, up
> >>> to 4 per year. I remember back when I wasn't interested in this,
> >>> there were some posts concerning this offer.
> >>> It seems some people weren't happy with it.
> >>> I thought maybe I better check here before I spend that kind of money?
> >>> What are your comments on this.
> >>> Jack
> >> New hardware is coming out all the time, complete with new operating
> >> system features that aren't available on your old units.
> >> And the new hardware is cheap, especially six months after introduction.
> >> Why pay to update a unit that you'll probably replace anyway?
> >>> to 4 per year. I remember back when I wasn't interested in this,
> >>> there were some posts concerning this offer.
> >>> It seems some people weren't happy with it.
> >>> I thought maybe I better check here before I spend that kind of money?
> >>> What are your comments on this.
> >>> Jack
> >> New hardware is coming out all the time, complete with new operating
> >> system features that aren't available on your old units.
> >> And the new hardware is cheap, especially six months after introduction.
> >> Why pay to update a unit that you'll probably replace anyway?
> > This is one of my reasons too. Since Garmin has been busying pumping out
> > several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to compete with
> > other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map data so
> > - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual hoping
> > more people will buy the DVD
> > - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the lifetime of
> > the UNIT which usually has few short years of life. While newer roads won't
> > happen often as well it may take few years to build a highway, some project
> > could take more than 5-6 years.
> > Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still don't
> > like Garmin marketing.
> > several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to compete with
> > other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map data so
> > - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual hoping
> > more people will buy the DVD
> > - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the lifetime of
> > the UNIT which usually has few short years of life. While newer roads won't
> > happen often as well it may take few years to build a highway, some project
> > could take more than 5-6 years.
> > Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still don't
> > like Garmin marketing.
>
> I was once told by a color film researcher at Kodak, that Kodak made
> practically nothing on the sale of it's cameras but made tremendous
> profit from film. Likewise, in buying replacement print cartridges for
> my HP printer, I could get a new printer for the cartridge costs.
> I'll bet that's where the HP profit lies.
>
> Dittos for Garmin. You can buy a whole gps for the price of the maps.
> I was once told by a color film researcher at Kodak, that Kodak made
> practically nothing on the sale of it's cameras but made tremendous
> profit from film. Likewise, in buying replacement print cartridges for
> my HP printer, I could get a new printer for the cartridge costs.
> I'll bet that's where the HP profit lies.
>
> Dittos for Garmin. You can buy a whole gps for the price of the maps.
Heheheh talking about photographer like myself who save tens of thousands
of dollars by going DIGITAL, and refilling ink cartridge instead of spending
around $120-140 for 6 original cartridges (cost around or less than $2-3 of
ink) which prints probably around 15-20 full pages. I haven't printed my
own for years since I can get much cheaper print from photolab.
BTW, I only use inkjet prinnter to print DVD label.
Joel wrote:
>>> They finally got around to me with the offer for lifetime updates,
>>> up to 4 per year. I remember back when I wasn't interested in this,
>>> there were some posts concerning this offer.
>>> It seems some people weren't happy with it.
>>> I thought maybe I better check here before I spend that kind of
>>> money?
>>> What are your comments on this.
>>> Jack
>>> up to 4 per year. I remember back when I wasn't interested in this,
>>> there were some posts concerning this offer.
>>> It seems some people weren't happy with it.
>>> I thought maybe I better check here before I spend that kind of
>>> money?
>>> What are your comments on this.
>>> Jack
>> New hardware is coming out all the time, complete with new operating
>> system features that aren't available on your old units.
>> And the new hardware is cheap, especially six months after
>> introduction.
>> Why pay to update a unit that you'll probably replace anyway?
>> system features that aren't available on your old units.
>> And the new hardware is cheap, especially six months after
>> introduction.
>> Why pay to update a unit that you'll probably replace anyway?
> This is one of my reasons too. Since Garmin has been busying pumping
> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
> data so
> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
> hoping more people will buy the DVD
> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
> don't like Garmin marketing.
> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
> data so
> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
> hoping more people will buy the DVD
> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
> don't like Garmin marketing.
The offering of lifetime updates, but only for your existing unit, seems a
little counter-productive because it will be a deterrent for Garmin users to
replace their units.
--
Kev
On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:18:28 +0100, Ret. wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>> This is one of my reasons too. Since Garmin has been busying pumping
>> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
>> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
>> data so
>> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
>> hoping more people will buy the DVD
>> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
>> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
>> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
>> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
>> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
>> don't like Garmin marketing.
>> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
>> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
>> data so
>> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
>> hoping more people will buy the DVD
>> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
>> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
>> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
>> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
>> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
>> don't like Garmin marketing.
> The offering of lifetime updates, but only for your existing unit, seems a
> little counter-productive because it will be a deterrent for Garmin users to
> replace their units.
> little counter-productive because it will be a deterrent for Garmin users to
> replace their units.
Nevertheless, that's exactly how it works.
--
Don't even get me started on the MCSEs I know. It's a miracle of
modern technology that some of these fsckwits still draw breath,
much less a paycheck.
-- Marc Bowden
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:18:28 +0100, Ret. wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> This is one of my reasons too. Since Garmin has been busying pumping
>>> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
>>> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
>>> data so
>>> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
>>> hoping more people will buy the DVD
>>> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
>>> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
>>> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
>>> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
>>> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
>>> don't like Garmin marketing.
>>> out several newer models yearly, and they have lower the price to
>>> compete with other manufactures. They know they can't sell the map
>>> data so
>>> - They stop including the map and now not even the printed manual
>>> hoping more people will buy the DVD
>>> - Garmin can't make good money from the Map so they offering the
>>> lifetime of the UNIT which usually has few short years of life.
>>> While newer roads won't happen often as well it may take few years to
>>> build a highway, some project could take more than 5-6 years.
>>> Yes, even I have been Garmin user for more than a decade, I still
>>> don't like Garmin marketing.
>> The offering of lifetime updates, but only for your existing unit, seems
>> a
>> little counter-productive because it will be a deterrent for Garmin users
>> to
>> replace their units.
>> a
>> little counter-productive because it will be a deterrent for Garmin users
>> to
>> replace their units.
> Nevertheless, that's exactly how it works.
When I was offered a reasonably priced 'lifetime guarantee' on a new
television, I carefully read through the terms and conditions, and the
lifetime guarantee turned out to be for the lifetime of the television, (not
my lifetime), and the television also had its date of death pre-announced,
so the 'lifetime guarantee' was for the lifetime of the product, and the
product's lifespan was actually set by the manufacturer. If you are offered
a lifetime guarantee on anything, check the small print carefully, and watch
out for statements such as "The lifetime guarantee relates the the life of a
Mayfly"
> When I was offered a reasonably priced 'lifetime guarantee' on a new
> television, I carefully read through the terms and conditions, and the
> lifetime guarantee turned out to be for the lifetime of the television, (not
> my lifetime), and the television also had its date of death pre-announced,
> so the 'lifetime guarantee' was for the lifetime of the product, and the
> product's lifespan was actually set by the manufacturer. If you are offered
> a lifetime guarantee on anything, check the small print carefully, and watch
> out for statements such as "The lifetime guarantee relates the the life of a
> Mayfly"
> television, I carefully read through the terms and conditions, and the
> lifetime guarantee turned out to be for the lifetime of the television, (not
> my lifetime), and the television also had its date of death pre-announced,
> so the 'lifetime guarantee' was for the lifetime of the product, and the
> product's lifespan was actually set by the manufacturer. If you are offered
> a lifetime guarantee on anything, check the small print carefully, and watch
> out for statements such as "The lifetime guarantee relates the the life of a
> Mayfly"
Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted. Why would somebody put a
guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box
'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little
box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and
leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
Ted Nelson, Customer: [impatiently] What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue
sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're
not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The
next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your
daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of
shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in
a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for
your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think
about buying a quality product from me.
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