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  Re: Garmin Nuvi 260w Password or Pin
| Peter H. Coffin | 05-31-2010 |
  Re: Garmin Nuvi 260w Password or Pin
| Phil Hornby | 05-31-2010 |
 Re: Garmin Nuvi 260w Password or Pin
| Gene E. Bloch | 05-31-2010 |
| Re: Garmin Nuvi 260w Password or Pin
| Phil Hornby | 06-01-2010 |
  Re: Garmin Nuvi 260w Password or Pin
| Gene E. Bloch | 06-01-2010 |
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:16:51 +0100, Phil Hornby wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 01:19:28 +0100, Phil Hornby wrote:
>>> I rang Garmin UK to try and track down the original owner of a N?70
>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually
>>> managed
>>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin
>>> to
>>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually
>>> managed
>>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin
>>> to
>>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>> This raises the question: would you have persisted to success if the
>> seller
>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>> seller
>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>
> Oh yes :-) (I had already tried all the 'magic' numbers I could think of
> (1,2,3,4 etc etc)
>
> The version of the firmware that the unit was running, didn't implement any
> kind of a lock out (they may have changed it by now), so I reckoned it would
> take just over an hour to try all 10,000 combinations - I just had to hope
> it wasn't just going to "play dead" and silently ignore everything I
> entered... (Nothing that clever, as it turned out).
>
> I was greatly assisted by the fact that the Nuvi 1370 displays the digits
> you've entered (instead of "*", like most of the others) and is quite snappy
> in its response. (Compare and contrast with the Nuvi 765, which often won't
> acknowledge even the *correct * PIN ;-)
> Oh yes :-) (I had already tried all the 'magic' numbers I could think of
> (1,2,3,4 etc etc)
>
> The version of the firmware that the unit was running, didn't implement any
> kind of a lock out (they may have changed it by now), so I reckoned it would
> take just over an hour to try all 10,000 combinations - I just had to hope
> it wasn't just going to "play dead" and silently ignore everything I
> entered... (Nothing that clever, as it turned out).
>
> I was greatly assisted by the fact that the Nuvi 1370 displays the digits
> you've entered (instead of "*", like most of the others) and is quite snappy
> in its response. (Compare and contrast with the Nuvi 765, which often won't
> acknowledge even the *correct * PIN ;-)
I have always assumed that slow responses in the typical dialogs for failed
password/pin codes were intentional, and were meant as a security measure.
And since I'm not a great typist, I'm afraid I'll someday find that I'm
facing a lockout on some important site...
But £30 to unlock it? Too much.
If I were doing such a task as you chose, I'd probably put on some
Macedonian folk music or some Mozart to ease the pain :-)
--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:06:19 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 01:19:28 +0100, Phil Hornby wrote:
>> I rang Garmin UK to try and track down the original owner of a N?70
>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually managed
>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin to
>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually managed
>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin to
>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>This raises the question: would you have persisted to success if the seller
>had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
>had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
Off-topic for a bit...during Desert Storm our unit back in Germany
sent a large container of supplies to us in Saudi Arabia, secured with
a combination lock, but no combo. Calling back to Germany was a dead
end, so I whiled away the hours by trying each 4-digit number in
sequence. IIRC, it opened at 9941. :)
Sunshine wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:06:19 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>
>
>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 01:19:28 +0100, Phil Hornby wrote:
>>> I rang Garmin UK to try and track down the original owner of a N?70
>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually managed
>>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin to
>>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually managed
>>> to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set the pin to
>>> "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I tried ;-)
>> This raises the question: would you have persisted to success if the seller
>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>> Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>> Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
>
> Off-topic for a bit...during Desert Storm our unit back in Germany
> sent a large container of supplies to us in Saudi Arabia, secured with
> a combination lock, but no combo. Calling back to Germany was a dead
> end, so I whiled away the hours by trying each 4-digit number in
> sequence. IIRC, it opened at 9941. :)
>
> Off-topic for a bit...during Desert Storm our unit back in Germany
> sent a large container of supplies to us in Saudi Arabia, secured with
> a combination lock, but no combo. Calling back to Germany was a dead
> end, so I whiled away the hours by trying each 4-digit number in
> sequence. IIRC, it opened at 9941. :)
>
Bolt cutter? 45 ACP? M-16?
> Bolt cutter? 45 ACP? M-16?
my thoughts exactly :)
> Sunshine wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:06:19 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 01:19:28 +0100, Phil Hornby wrote:
>>>> I rang Garmin UK to try and track down the original owner of a N?70
>>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually
>>>> managed to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set
>>>> the pin to "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I
>>>> tried ;-)
>>> This raises the question: would you have persisted to success if the
>>> seller
>>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>>> Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
>>>> I rang Garmin UK to try and track down the original owner of a N?70
>>>> with an unknown PIN. They said they couldn't possibly give me that
>>>> information, but for £30, they would unlock it for me!. I actually
>>>> managed to unlock it without Garmin's help - the original owner had set
>>>> the pin to "1" "3" "7" "0"... (this being the 1371st combination I
>>>> tried ;-)
>>> This raises the question: would you have persisted to success if the
>>> seller
>>> had set the PIN to 9371? (Just for laughs, I chose a prime number.)
>>> Don't take that as a criticism - I might have done just what you did :-)
>> Off-topic for a bit...during Desert Storm our unit back in Germany
>> sent a large container of supplies to us in Saudi Arabia, secured with
>> a combination lock, but no combo. Calling back to Germany was a dead
>> end, so I whiled away the hours by trying each 4-digit number in
>> sequence. IIRC, it opened at 9941. :)
>> sent a large container of supplies to us in Saudi Arabia, secured with
>> a combination lock, but no combo. Calling back to Germany was a dead
>> end, so I whiled away the hours by trying each 4-digit number in
>> sequence. IIRC, it opened at 9941. :)
> Bolt cutter? 45 ACP? M-16?
Most sidearms are 9mm Berettas these days. Some special units have .45's
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