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Posted by JBDragon on March 17, 2008, 9:11 pm


Unless Verizon is disabling the Bluetooth for some reason, I don't know why
they would do such a thing, it should work. Otherwise all the Bluetooth
headsets out there wouldn't work and I think we all would be hearing a
uproar. Also more laws and being put in place on having to use a Hands free
device while driving. Restricting Bluetooth for whatever reason would be
pretty dumb. There's No Verizon Bluetooth, and AT&T Bluetooth, it's all
the same. What I would do is bring your Nuvi to the Verizon store and try
to link up the Bluetooth phone and NUVI and see if it works right there.
Make sure you have your instructions so you know what your doing, and not
just guessing. The Bluetooth should be the same on either the GSM or CDMA
phone versions. If your Garmin NUVI is not going to connect, then no other
Bluetooth headsets are going to connect to it either!!! That would be
pretty dumb.


> "JBDragon" <JBDragon at someplace dot com> wrote in message
>> My guess it has something to do with the version of Bluetooth that phone
>> supports. It's strange the newer phone works less then the older phone.
>> I think you'll have been luck with a different phone then hoping Garmin
>> will do anything to make that phone work if it's even possible! Right
>> now I would like Garmin to allow headsets to linkup to the GPS on the
>> NUVI units also!
> I guess I should go back to verizon and ask if they can update the
> firmware.
> thanx
> don
>>> my verizon phone is an LG. It "works" with the garmin but the
>>> addressbook does not so it is pretty lame ... I have to use the phone to
>>> dial instead of the big screen. is garmin improving this at all?
>>> My -older- phone worked with all features but it died on me.
>>>> Wow, bought a Nuvi 760 and went to Verizon wireless today to buy a new
>>>> family share plan with Bluetooth phones. "Oh yeah, sure, this phone
>>>> has bluetooth," said the young saleman. "Can we look it uo on the
>>>> internet to make sure," said the older more-experienced-with-Garmin
>>>> guy (me). AND SURE ENOUGH! The SCH model Samsung phone is not on the
>>>> Garmin site...says I need an SGH phone. So...
>>>> Come to find out Garmin uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA...and my 760
>>>> won't work with 99% of the Verizon phones.
>>>> Would someone please explain all of this? Thanks, George
>


Posted by S.G. on March 17, 2008, 11:33 pm


On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:11:46 -0700, "JBDragon" <JBDragon at someplace
dot com> wrote:

>Unless Verizon is disabling the Bluetooth for some reason, I don't know why
>they would do such a thing, it should work.

They disable the Bluetooth file-transfer capability because with it
you can transfer your photos, ringtones, etc. to and from your phone
-- and not use their network and therefore not pay their fees. You
can go to the phone modding forums for explanations on how to hack/mod
your phone to enable your Verizon phone's original capabilities. One
caveat -- I have hacked my Verizon phone but it took me many hours of
getting through the B.S. on the forums to figure out exactly how.

>Otherwise all the Bluetooth headsets out there wouldn't work and I think we all
would be hearing a
>uproar.

They don't disable the Bluetooth profiles that let you talk with your
headset. In 2005, Verizon did get sued for not explicitly telling
their customers that they were crippling their phones.

>Also more laws and being put in place on having to use a Hands free
>device while driving. Restricting Bluetooth for whatever reason would be
>pretty dumb. There's No Verizon Bluetooth, and AT&T Bluetooth, it's all
>the same.

True. Though there are different Bluetooth profiles, and Verizon
disables at least two of them. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile .

>What I would do is bring your Nuvi to the Verizon store and try
>to link up the Bluetooth phone and NUVI and see if it works right there.
>Make sure you have your instructions so you know what your doing, and not
>just guessing. The Bluetooth should be the same on either the GSM or CDMA
>phone versions. If your Garmin NUVI is not going to connect, then no other
>Bluetooth headsets are going to connect to it either!!! That would be
>pretty dumb.
>> I guess I should go back to verizon and ask if they can update the
>> firmware.

Yeah, right. Verizon employees are usually clueless about Bluetooth
profiles. Also, Verizon does not have any firmware / flashes that do
not disable the Bluetooth profiles.


Posted by JBDragon on March 18, 2008, 11:12 pm



> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:11:46 -0700, "JBDragon" <JBDragon at someplace
> dot com> wrote:
>>Unless Verizon is disabling the Bluetooth for some reason, I don't know
>>why
>>they would do such a thing, it should work.
> They disable the Bluetooth file-transfer capability because with it
> you can transfer your photos, ringtones, etc. to and from your phone
> -- and not use their network and therefore not pay their fees. You
> can go to the phone modding forums for explanations on how to hack/mod
> your phone to enable your Verizon phone's original capabilities. One
> caveat -- I have hacked my Verizon phone but it took me many hours of
> getting through the B.S. on the forums to figure out exactly how.
Again, your just using a wireless headset. Your not transfering any files.
The Garmin Bluetooth interface is like any other Bluetooth Headset you could
buy for the phone. You may not get the FULL features, like Messageing, or
Phone Book transfered over for example, but Basic Answering a call at the
minumum should work.

>>Otherwise all the Bluetooth headsets out there wouldn't work and I think
>>we all would be hearing a
>>uproar.
> They don't disable the Bluetooth profiles that let you talk with your
> headset. In 2005, Verizon did get sued for not explicitly telling
> their customers that they were crippling their phones.
It seems like all the Cell Companys cripple their phones one way or another,
but crippling Bluetooth not to work for headsets would be a pretty dumb move
on their part. With the laws out now, and ones coming into effect, if you
can't use a Hands free headset with your Verizon phone, a great many people
would be a little pissed and leave the company. Really, you would be forced
to.

>>Also more laws and being put in place on having to use a Hands free
>>device while driving. Restricting Bluetooth for whatever reason would be
>>pretty dumb. There's No Verizon Bluetooth, and AT&T Bluetooth, it's all
>>the same.
> True. Though there are different Bluetooth profiles, and Verizon
> disables at least two of them. See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile .
>>What I would do is bring your Nuvi to the Verizon store and try
>>to link up the Bluetooth phone and NUVI and see if it works right there.
>>Make sure you have your instructions so you know what your doing, and not
>>just guessing. The Bluetooth should be the same on either the GSM or
>>CDMA
>>phone versions. If your Garmin NUVI is not going to connect, then no
>>other
>>Bluetooth headsets are going to connect to it either!!! That would be
>>pretty dumb.
>>> I guess I should go back to verizon and ask if they can update the
>>> firmware.
> Yeah, right. Verizon employees are usually clueless about Bluetooth
> profiles. Also, Verizon does not have any firmware / flashes that do
> not disable the Bluetooth profiles.
Ya, Verizon employees aren't going to know jack. All they know is to sell
you a phone, and you'll be luck if they even know what the hell they're
trying to sell you. Again, Bring the NUVI to the Store and try linking it
up with one of their working phones to see if it works. That's really
pretty simple to do, only takes a couple minutes. With a little more time
you might be able to call out or answer the phone if they'll let you do
that, see if the Nuvi will import the phone book if that phone has any
numbers stored in it. Really, the only way to be 100% sure is to do it
this way.


Posted by chriso on March 18, 2008, 5:23 am


<JBDragon at someplace dot com> says...

>Right now I would like Garmin to allow headsets to linkup to the GPS on
>the NUVI units also!

It seems pretty sensible to allow the gps and phone to both talk to the
Bluetooth headset, with an auto gps mute when u r on the phone.

I hope/suspect Garmin have already figured this out.

The 2820 will do this as it is motorcyle friendly. Check the manual
options for Volume control and Bluetooth.

Now if it was $450 and available in Australia with Australian mapping I
would have found the GPS to buy..

Chriso

Posted by chriso on March 18, 2008, 5:54 am


shedatear@nospammicrosoft.com says...
> <JBDragon at someplace dot com> says...
>
> >Right now I would like Garmin to allow headsets to linkup to the GPS on
> >the NUVI units also!
>
> It seems pretty sensible to allow the gps and phone to both talk to the
> Bluetooth headset, with an auto gps mute when u r on the phone.
>
> I hope/suspect Garmin have already figured this out.
>
> The 2820 will do this as it is motorcyle friendly. Check the manual
> options for Volume control and Bluetooth.
>
> Now if it was $450 and available in Australia with Australian mapping I
> would have found the GPS to buy..
>
> Chriso
>
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=382


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