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Posted by Lon on December 30, 2009, 8:22 pm


Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 12/28/09, Ed Pawlowski posted:
>> The shortest route is not always the best route. You still have to
>> use your brain.
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_stranded_motorists
>
>> GRANTS PASS, Ore. - A Nevada couple letting their SUV's navigation
>> system guide them through the high desert of Eastern Oregon got stuck
>> in snow for three days when the GPS unit sent them down a remote
>> forest road.
>
>> On Sunday, atmospheric conditions apparently changed enough for their
>> GPS-enabled cell phone to get a weak signal and relay coordinates to a
>> dispatcher, Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger said.
>
>> "GPS almost did 'em in and GPS saved 'em," Evinger said. "It will give
>> you options to pick the shortest route. You certainly get the shortest
>> route. But it may not be a safe route."
>
> A couple of years ago in the winter, James Kim (if I recall his name
> correctly) managed to pick a Forest Service road to go west from Route
> 99 to another major road in southern Oregon, without the help of a GPS.
> His wife and children were found alive, but he'd gone on foot to seek
> help and didn't survive.
>
> As for Red's remark about Darwin at work, note that they are in their
> mid to upper 60s :-)
>
> That whole area is tough even on the better roads, IMO.
>
> BTW, when I heard about the new rescue, I did wonder if GPS was
> involved. I plotted some routes across southern Oregon this past summer
> using Streets and Trips, and it wanted to put me on similar roads to the
> Rhoads' roads. I declined, even in late May...I just used my AAA maps :-)
>

If you set a GPS to shortest route, it will give you the shortest route
as dictated by your other preferences regarding road types.

In a Jeep, with a bit of common sense, can be interesting.


Posted by Gene E. Bloch on December 31, 2009, 2:51 pm


On 12/30/09, Lon posted:
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> On 12/28/09, Ed Pawlowski posted:
>>> The shortest route is not always the best route. You still have to use
>>> your brain.
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_stranded_motorists
>>
>>> GRANTS PASS, Ore. - A Nevada couple letting their SUV's navigation system
>>> guide them through the high desert of Eastern Oregon got stuck in snow for
>>> three days when the GPS unit sent them down a remote forest road.
>>
>>> On Sunday, atmospheric conditions apparently changed enough for their
>>> GPS-enabled cell phone to get a weak signal and relay coordinates to a
>>> dispatcher, Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger said.
>>
>>> "GPS almost did 'em in and GPS saved 'em," Evinger said. "It will give you
>>> options to pick the shortest route. You certainly get the shortest route.
>>> But it may not be a safe route."
>>
>> A couple of years ago in the winter, James Kim (if I recall his name
>> correctly) managed to pick a Forest Service road to go west from Route 99
>> to another major road in southern Oregon, without the help of a GPS. His
>> wife and children were found alive, but he'd gone on foot to seek help and
>> didn't survive.
>>
>> As for Red's remark about Darwin at work, note that they are in their mid
>> to upper 60s :-)
>>
>> That whole area is tough even on the better roads, IMO.
>>
>> BTW, when I heard about the new rescue, I did wonder if GPS was involved. I
>> plotted some routes across southern Oregon this past summer using Streets
>> and Trips, and it wanted to put me on similar roads to the Rhoads' roads. I
>> declined, even in late May...I just used my AAA maps :-)
>>

> If you set a GPS to shortest route, it will give you the shortest route as
> dictated by your other preferences regarding road types.

> In a Jeep, with a bit of common sense, can be interesting.

That phrase "common sense" - just what does it mean, exactly?

That's just my weird (sardonic, I guess) way of saying that you hit the
nail on the head...

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com



Posted by Yo$$1960 on January 4, 2010, 10:47 am


On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:51:39 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> That phrase "common sense" - just what does it mean, exactly?

It mis-uses the word common, for a start.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually
Monsoon - Robbie Williams


Posted by Gene E. Bloch on January 4, 2010, 5:40 pm


On 1/04/10, Yo$$1960 posted:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:51:39 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

>> That phrase "common sense" - just what does it mean, exactly?

> It mis-uses the word common, for a start.

LOL

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com



Posted by dold on January 4, 2010, 3:20 pm



> the Rhoads' roads. I declined, even in late May...I just used my AAA
> maps :-)

Many moons ago, the AAA map made "state highway 3", look like a good route
as an alternate to 299 from Redding, CA out to the coast during
construction on 299. I should have known better when the yellow line in
the middle of the road disappeared. Eventually, it was just a one lane
road, with blind curves.

Around here, there are some maps that show wishful thinking... "it would be
nice if this road connected through to that one". Sometimes you can see
what led a cartographer working from sat/air photos to think there was a
road there, maybe HV power lines, or a dirt track from someone who decided
to make that shortcut.

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

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