
- Couple-stranded-following-GPS
- 12-28-2009
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| Ed Pawlowski | 01-05-2010 |
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| Topaz305rk | 01-06-2010 |
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| Mike Russell | 01-06-2010 |
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| Mike Russell | 01-10-2010 |
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| Ed Pawlowski | 01-08-2010 |
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| Topaz305rk | 01-08-2010 |
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| Gene E. Bloch | 12-29-2009 |
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| Gene E. Bloch | 01-04-2010 |
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| Peter H. Coffin | 01-04-2010 |
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| Gene E. Bloch | 01-04-2010 |
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> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:23:06 -0700, Topaz305rk wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>>wrote:
> >>>>It's not always easy to tell whether a road is paved or not when it
> >>>>has 12" of snow on it, but there should be other clues, I would think=
.
> >>>wrote:
> >>>>It's not always easy to tell whether a road is paved or not when it
> >>>>has 12" of snow on it, but there should be other clues, I would think=
> >>>Stopping and scraping a bit of the snow off and consistently finding
> >>>asphalt would be a dead giveaway, don'tcha think?
> >> I don't think many people would agree that it's reasonable to
> >> periodically stop, get out, and scrape a bit of snow to check for
> >> asphalt. I certainly wouldn't propose it or do it myself.
> >>>Evidence of previous plowing might also assist the driver capable of
> >>>very deep thinking. If it has been plowed from previous snowfalls, it
> >>>is PROBABLY a "maintained" road, hahaha.
> >> And if it's not plowed, it can simply mean it hasn't been plowed yet.
> >> I was thinking more along the lines of signage.
> >>>asphalt would be a dead giveaway, don'tcha think?
> >> I don't think many people would agree that it's reasonable to
> >> periodically stop, get out, and scrape a bit of snow to check for
> >> asphalt. I certainly wouldn't propose it or do it myself.
> >>>Evidence of previous plowing might also assist the driver capable of
> >>>very deep thinking. If it has been plowed from previous snowfalls, it
> >>>is PROBABLY a "maintained" road, hahaha.
> >> And if it's not plowed, it can simply mean it hasn't been plowed yet.
> >> I was thinking more along the lines of signage.
> > Makes no difference if there is signage, plowed road, paved or gravel.
> > The dead give-a-way clue is "12 inches of snow" duh!!!!
> > Why go there just because a pretty little color screen says you can?
> > Oh, yea, there is the "common sense" thing again.
> > The dead give-a-way clue is "12 inches of snow" duh!!!!
> > Why go there just because a pretty little color screen says you can?
> > Oh, yea, there is the "common sense" thing again.
> I dunno. =A0This is the "nut behind the wheel" argument, revisited. =A0We=
've
> done things to make cars safer, why not GPS units?
> Out of millions of people using GPS, there will be a certain number who
> will do dumb things and get themselves in trouble. =A0It seems likely tha=
t
> Out of millions of people using GPS, there will be a certain number who
> will do dumb things and get themselves in trouble. =A0It seems likely tha=
> the GPS user interface can be changed to reduce the number of incidents,
> perhaps saving a few lives. =A0Preventing an accident would be all to the
> better, regardless of whose "fault" it would have been.
> For starters, flagging seasonal roads in the road database would have mad=
e
> perhaps saving a few lives. =A0Preventing an accident would be all to the
> better, regardless of whose "fault" it would have been.
> For starters, flagging seasonal roads in the road database would have mad=
> this particular incident less likely to happen. =A0This could even be a
> user-maintained database, similar to the red light POI databases that hav=
e
> user-maintained database, similar to the red light POI databases that hav=
> sprung up via user contributions.
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ABSOLUTELY - why not a "no secondary roads" option as to routes, or
something similar - the "fastest route" or "shortest route" leaves
LOTS to be desired, and "disasters-in-waiting" potential. I bought our
own unit for hands free use in heavy trafficked metropolitan areas -
especially while traveling with our RV - and have several times been
traveling in unfamiliar areas as snow began to fall LONG before any
plows were to arrive - SO, as an owner of a GPS unit BOUGHT to provide
guidance in unfamiliar areas - and yeah, in BAD weather too - I'm
THEN, advised to "carry a printed map", and also get out periodically
to "dig in the snow to see if I'm still on a paved surface"?
Yeah - there ARE some brain power issues here - and it ISN'T all on
the GPS users who get lost due to weaknesses in the design and
accuracy of supplied maps...
Why is all the blame and responsibility automatically upon the BUYER/
USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
MAKER?
In article
> Why is all the blame and responsibility automatically upon the BUYER/
> USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> MAKER?
> USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> MAKER?
It is simple, DUFUS... You didn't do the RESEARCH into the Product
BEFORE you bought it... Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
capabilities.... So you based you purchase on unrealistic
expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
product..... Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
you, it is your responsibility to KNOW what your buying because you did
the Research in the FIRST PLACE... If the product didn't meet your
expectations, then DO NOT buy it.... Duh.... I bet you voted for Obama
too.... How's that working out for you....
>In article
>> Why is all the blame and responsibility automatically upon the BUYER/
>> USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
>> MAKER?
>> USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
>> MAKER?
>It is simple, DUFUS... You didn't do the RESEARCH into the Product
>BEFORE you bought it... Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
>capabilities.... So you based you purchase on unrealistic
>expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
>have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
>product..... Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
>you,
>BEFORE you bought it... Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
>capabilities.... So you based you purchase on unrealistic
>expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
>have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
>product..... Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
>you,
Actually, it is precisely the OEM's responsibility to please
consumers. The OEM who does it best wins the market share.
<snipped the rest of this ridiculous rant>
> In article
> > Why is all the blame and responsibility automatically upon the BUYER/
> > USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> > MAKER?
> > USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> > MAKER?
> It is simple, DUFUS... =A0You didn't do the RESEARCH into the Product
> BEFORE you bought it... =A0Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
> capabilities.... =A0So you based you purchase on unrealistic
> expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
> have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
> product..... =A0Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
> you, it is your responsibility to KNOW what your buying because you did
> the Research in the FIRST PLACE... =A0If the product didn't meet your
> expectations, then DO NOT buy it.... Duh.... =A0I bet you voted for Obama
> too.... How's that working out for you....
> BEFORE you bought it... =A0Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
> capabilities.... =A0So you based you purchase on unrealistic
> expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
> have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
> product..... =A0Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
> you, it is your responsibility to KNOW what your buying because you did
> the Research in the FIRST PLACE... =A0If the product didn't meet your
> expectations, then DO NOT buy it.... Duh.... =A0I bet you voted for Obama
> too.... How's that working out for you....
The Quality" of your reply tells MUCH about your own intelligence and
maturity level,,,
Manufacturers rise, or fall, on their ability to provide not what THEY
like or are willing to produce, but what their CUSTOMERS want and need
- and in the case of GPS units DESIGNED and MARKETED to assist
travelers in unfamiliar places and situations, the need and "wants"
should be pretty obvious!
Research a GPS device? Yeah, sure - and which one of them openly
advertises the very real likelihood it will in more remote areas send
the user down a cowtrail instead of an actual ROAD designed for
vehicle traffic? How many makers will send the customer an actual unit
to test before purchase, to actually SEE it's strengths and weaknesses
in varying situations BEFORE buying?
NO, *I* have never allowed myself to be diverted down OBVIOUSLY
inadequate and impassable paths by my own Garmin C340 - but I AM
disgusted at the far too many times it has TRIED - and if I *can't*
trust it in unfamiliar areas (the very reason I BOUGHT it!), and then
must fall back upon printed maps for proper directions - then what use
is it?
In article
> > > Why is all the blame and responsibility automatically upon the BUYER/
> > > USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> > > MAKER?
> > > USER - why can't we expect a BETTER and MORE ACCURATE device from the
> > > MAKER?
> > It is simple, DUFUS... You didn't do the RESEARCH into the Product
> > BEFORE you bought it... Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
> > capabilities.... So you based you purchase on unrealistic
> > expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
> > have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
> > product..... Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
> > you, it is your responsibility to KNOW what your buying because you did
> > the Research in the FIRST PLACE... If the product didn't meet your
> > expectations, then DO NOT buy it.... Duh.... I bet you voted for Obama
> > too.... How's that working out for you....
> > BEFORE you bought it... Because if you had you would have KNOWN it's
> > capabilities.... So you based you purchase on unrealistic
> > expectations... and NOW all you can do is WHINE about how the OEM should
> > have figured out what your expectations were, and built that into the
> > product..... Get a life.. it isn't the OEM's responsibility to Please
> > you, it is your responsibility to KNOW what your buying because you did
> > the Research in the FIRST PLACE... If the product didn't meet your
> > expectations, then DO NOT buy it.... Duh.... I bet you voted for Obama
> > too.... How's that working out for you....
>
> The Quality" of your reply tells MUCH about your own intelligence and
> maturity level,,,
>
> Manufacturers rise, or fall, on their ability to provide not what THEY
> like or are willing to produce, but what their CUSTOMERS want and need
> - and in the case of GPS units DESIGNED and MARKETED to assist
> travelers in unfamiliar places and situations, the need and "wants"
> should be pretty obvious!
>
> Research a GPS device? Yeah, sure - and which one of them openly
> advertises the very real likelihood it will in more remote areas send
> the user down a cowtrail instead of an actual ROAD designed for
> vehicle traffic? How many makers will send the customer an actual unit
> to test before purchase, to actually SEE it's strengths and weaknesses
> in varying situations BEFORE buying?
>
> NO, *I* have never allowed myself to be diverted down OBVIOUSLY
> inadequate and impassable paths by my own Garmin C340 - but I AM
> disgusted at the far too many times it has TRIED - and if I *can't*
> trust it in unfamiliar areas (the very reason I BOUGHT it!), and then
> must fall back upon printed maps for proper directions - then what use
> is it?
> The Quality" of your reply tells MUCH about your own intelligence and
> maturity level,,,
>
> Manufacturers rise, or fall, on their ability to provide not what THEY
> like or are willing to produce, but what their CUSTOMERS want and need
> - and in the case of GPS units DESIGNED and MARKETED to assist
> travelers in unfamiliar places and situations, the need and "wants"
> should be pretty obvious!
>
> Research a GPS device? Yeah, sure - and which one of them openly
> advertises the very real likelihood it will in more remote areas send
> the user down a cowtrail instead of an actual ROAD designed for
> vehicle traffic? How many makers will send the customer an actual unit
> to test before purchase, to actually SEE it's strengths and weaknesses
> in varying situations BEFORE buying?
>
> NO, *I* have never allowed myself to be diverted down OBVIOUSLY
> inadequate and impassable paths by my own Garmin C340 - but I AM
> disgusted at the far too many times it has TRIED - and if I *can't*
> trust it in unfamiliar areas (the very reason I BOUGHT it!), and then
> must fall back upon printed maps for proper directions - then what use
> is it?
Well that is the 'Question of the HOUR, isn't it????? Just HOW does the
OEM, in this case Garmin, "KNOW" what each individual potentioal
customer wants in their GPS??? Do you expect them to custom build one of
these mass marketed devices to YOUR PERSONAL specifications? Their
Engineers listen to the Marketing Folks, who listen to the comments sent
in by customers with previous Models.... Did you send in any comments
to Garmin on a previous Model? NO, Well then you are a Whiney Assed
DUFUS... who expects the world of Marketing and Engineers, to READ YOUR
MIND.... in advance, of your even thinking about a purchase... let alone
going out and plunking down your cash, sight unseen, for their product,
because your to lazy to research their products, of which, ALL the User
Manuals are published ONLINE.... Yup, definitely an Obama Voter....
Well welcome to the REAL WORLD, of which YOU are a VERY Small Part...
and your MIND is even SMALLER....
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