76csx--adding marine maps

Now, thanks to all your help, I am comfortable with the 76csx, MapSource
6.15, CNNA 2010 and ready to move on to bigger & better!
I live in Ontario, Canada and love camping and boating on lakes from the
Greats to smaller inland lakes. One of my favorite spots near Parry Sound
does not even show water on the map screen. (unless there is an option I
have missed to show water in a different color than land)
I have 4 questions:

1) Is there a BlueChart (or whatever) that allows me to select maps to
upload to the csx as I need, or are multiple purchases required. Garmin's
website shows one which includes "Canada inland lakes."

2) More important: Jack E. has commented that the SD card can only have 1
file named gmapsupp.img. Do the marine maps have a different file name?

3) There has been information here that suggests that maps do not overlay or
not transparent. Does that mean that I cannot have CNNA and the marine map
running at the same time. IOW, while navigating by road using CNNA, will I
not be able to see a lake that I cannot at present?

4) Same questions as above for Topo maps

Thanks


--
Regards,
Richard Harison

LightByrd wrote:

The Canada Inland Lakes is a newer product and one of the ones that is
only available on preprogrammed cards

Garmin BlueChart Americas V2008 was the last version of BlueChart
mapping that was sold on CD-ROMs. If you have that or can find that it
can be updated to V2008.5 for a fee. That was the last BlueChart
Americas mapping that can be installed on a PC, used on a PC, and also
be used to upload to handhelds like yours.

BlueChart Americas on CD-ROM does include charts for Parry Sound and
down in to the Great Lakes and the CA/US common waters but not for any
of the smaller lakes in CA.

Like all supplemental mapping for these handhelds, you have to select
all the maps from all the available mapping products that are in your
MapSource installation and upload them all at the same time to get them
in to the one allowed gmapsupp.img file. At least that is required if
you want to be able switch between the different maps from the GPS
receiver. You could also put different individual supplemental mapping
files on different memory cards and change cards to change mapping.

BlueChart is now being sold only on pre-loaded SD and microSD cards.
The charts you need would be in the Great Lakes group, you can see the
individual zones and the pricing here:

http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/bluechart/region.jsp?RegionPK=25360

If you buy the pre-loaded cards you have to put the card in the receiver
to see the charts and the mapping data cannot be installed to MapSource
or seen on a PC.

There are some more expensive flavors of the BlueChart pre-loaded cards
called BlueChart G2 and G2 Vision, those have additional eye and brain
candy for boaters (beyond the basic charts) and you can see those here:

http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/us/maps/onthewatermaps

The maps on preloaded cards are locked to the one specific memory card
they are sold on and cannot be copied to another card and used. And I
suspect that if you buy the new charts via download, they will unlocked
either to an individual receiver by Unit I.D. or an individual memory
card by the card's unique embedded serial number. That will be to limit
use to one GPS receiver.

If there is anything good to be said about the preprogrammed cards it is
that they can be used in any compatible receiver. If you have BlueChart
mapping that is unlocked to a Unit I.D. it will only work with a single
GPS receiver.


Nope, it is as above the the BlueChart stuff I've seen so far. I
suspect that if you look at a preprogrammed BlueChart card you will find
a \garmin folder with a gmapsupp.img file in it. There will also be one
or two other small files on the card and those are what negotiate the
process of making sure that the maps on still on the card they were sold
on so they can be used. If they are not on that card that will not work.


You cannot have both running at the same time, you will not see any
waters except for those shown on the mapping that is in the Show and is
highest in the hierarchy for display. The Americas Marine Point
Database is a transparent mapping product and, if it is on, it will
display it's map objects over any other mapping. That is the only
transparent one I am aware of.


Same answer. As an aside comment, some of the newer Garmin topo mapping
has autorouting road vectors on it for the major roads. Probably about
the same level of autorouting as you would get with your base maps roads.

Jack

| LightByrd wrote:
Sound
I
Garmin's
|
| The Canada Inland Lakes is a newer product and one of the ones that is
| only available on preprogrammed cards

Which I suppose shoots down the idea of simultaneous maps. Just what I
wanted..trying to switch micro SD's while in a choppy sea and watching one
drop into the bilge!

| Garmin BlueChart Americas V2008 was the last version of BlueChart
| mapping that was sold on CD-ROMs. If you have that or can find that it
| can be updated to V2008.5 for a fee. That was the last BlueChart
| Americas mapping that can be installed on a PC, used on a PC, and also
| be used to upload to handhelds like yours.

I'm on the hunt!

| BlueChart Americas on CD-ROM does include charts for Parry Sound and
| down in to the Great Lakes and the CA/US common waters but not for any
| of the smaller lakes in CA.
|
| Like all supplemental mapping for these handhelds, you have to select
| all the maps from all the available mapping products that are in your
| MapSource installation and upload them all at the same time to get them
| in to the one allowed gmapsupp.img file.

I am assuming then that from MS one would select maps from say CNNA and
then change the map drop down box to the BCA2008 maps and use the map tool
to include these into the map tab as well...then upload the whole shooting
match?

| BlueChart is now being sold only on pre-loaded SD and microSD cards.
| The charts you need would be in the Great Lakes group, you can see the
| individual zones and the pricing here:
|
| http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/bluechart/region.jsp?RegionPK=25360
|
| If you buy the pre-loaded cards you have to put the card in the receiver
| to see the charts and the mapping data cannot be installed to MapSource
| or seen on a PC.
|
| There are some more expensive flavors of the BlueChart pre-loaded cards
| called BlueChart G2 and G2 Vision, those have additional eye and brain
| candy for boaters (beyond the basic charts) and you can see those here:

Garmin site says G2 & G2 vision are being recalled!

| http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/us/maps/onthewatermaps
|
| The maps on preloaded cards are locked to the one specific memory card
| they are sold on and cannot be copied to another card and used. And I
| suspect that if you buy the new charts via download, they will unlocked
| either to an individual receiver by Unit I.D. or an individual memory
| card by the card's unique embedded serial number. That will be to limit
| use to one GPS receiver.
|
| If there is anything good to be said about the preprogrammed cards it is
| that they can be used in any compatible receiver. If you have BlueChart
| mapping that is unlocked to a Unit I.D. it will only work with a single
| GPS receiver.
|
1
|
| Nope, it is as above the the BlueChart stuff I've seen so far. I
| suspect that if you look at a preprogrammed BlueChart card you will find
| a \garmin folder with a gmapsupp.img file in it. There will also be one
| or two other small files on the card and those are what negotiate the
| process of making sure that the maps on still on the card they were sold
| on so they can be used. If they are not on that card that will not work.
|
overlay or
map
will I
|
| You cannot have both running at the same time, you will not see any
| waters except for those shown on the mapping that is in the Show and is
| highest in the hierarchy for display. The Americas Marine Point
| Database is a transparent mapping product and, if it is on, it will
| display it's map objects over any other mapping. That is the only
| transparent one I am aware of.
|
|
| Same answer. As an aside comment, some of the newer Garmin topo mapping
| has autorouting road vectors on it for the major roads. Probably about
| the same level of autorouting as you would get with your base maps roads.

But I could still include these maps using MS, adding them to an upload to
the unit as I queried above about BCA 2008
| Jack



Thanks again, Jack....
Comments inserted above

--
Regards,
Richard Harison

LightByrd wrote:

I lost my first 1 GB microSD card to the Kennebunk River at
Kennebunkport. I did sort of a falling leave act as it descended to the
depths. I suppose it is still there...


Exactly right.


Yeah, that has been that way since right after they released them I
think. I don't know it they have them fix yet, if they are actually
selling and shipping any of the G2 stuff.


Right. My standard load up for my 76Cx has City Navigator, BlueChart,
and U.S. Topo maps. With the older U.S. Topo maps the limit that comes
up is the maximum number of maps that can be selected is 2,025 map.
That older version of the topo mapping had something like 6,600 maps in
it for the U.S.

Jack

| LightByrd wrote:
|
tool
shooting
|
| Exactly right.
|

upload to
|
| Right. My standard load up for my 76Cx has City Navigator, BlueChart,
| and U.S. Topo maps. With the older U.S. Topo maps the limit that comes
| up is the maximum number of maps that can be selected is 2,025 map.
| That older version of the topo mapping had something like 6,600 maps in
| it for the U.S.
|
| Jack

Great stuff!
How about this:
My favorite lake does not show on CNNA & therefore not on the csx as well.
The unit does show 3 overwater way points so I can navigate by boat to the
camp site.
Let's assume, as you suggested above, I upload CNNA & marine maps that do
show the lake.
Will the lake now appear on the csx and I then know for sure that my
waypoints are indeed overwater?
Thanks!

--
Regards,
Richard Harison